Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Now, wait a minute. Now wait a minute.
[00:00:03] Speaker B: Sometimes voting can make you feel like you're just a small piece, just a cog in a machine. And that feeling can be demoralizing. It can make you feel ground down. But what I want us to examine today is the idea that maybe being a cog isn't always so bad. Because sometimes you're a small part of something much bigger, better, and more beautiful than you could ever be alone. I'm talking, of course, about the magic, the wonder, the incredible. The incredible things that can be accomplished when you put together the giant robot that is electoralism. And that's right, folks, we're here to vote. It's the most important election of your.
This election, which will be, I do truly believe, the most important election of our lifetime.
[00:01:01] Speaker A: This is the most important election of our lifetime.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: This is the most important election.
[00:01:07] Speaker A: Don't you you hear that?
[00:01:09] Speaker C: This is the most important election in our life.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: I certainly think it's the most important.
[00:01:13] Speaker D: Election of my lifetime.
[00:01:15] Speaker B: This is the most important election of our times.
[00:01:19] Speaker C: Politicians say every time.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: This is the most important election.
[00:01:23] Speaker C: This one's really that important.
[00:01:24] Speaker A: This special episode. Get in your voting robot. That's right. Pull out your voting robot. Get the voting robots.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Get in the voting robot. Shinji, get in the polling.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: Like if you just go without.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: Wait, no, we're not talking about. We're not talking about Shinji. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm mixing up my. I'm mixing up my big robot franchises.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: You.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: You need to tell.
[00:01:46] Speaker D: Dare you. Oh my God.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: I know people. I. I'm actually. I'm such a big Gundam fan too. I don't want people at home to think I'm a. I'm a fake. Please, please. I'm desperate for your attention and your approval.
I need you to know that I'm serious about Gundam.
[00:02:02] Speaker C: It's very true that our episode Planning started with 12 minute explanation on the difference between a Gundam and a Gunpla. Also, lots of discussion on the variations between a Gundam and a mere mobile suit.
We really dug into it. So when Kennedy says that they love this franchise, they're not kidding around.
[00:02:23] Speaker D: And so we're doing macro.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: Just so everybody knows. Just so everybody knows, my whole perspective on today's episode is going to be, wow, cool robots.
[00:02:31] Speaker D: Is that not intended?
[00:02:33] Speaker B: That's a reasonable.
[00:02:34] Speaker A: I mean, I'm sure that I've heard that there's like some themes and some political stuff.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: We're gonna talk a lot about the deep themes of Gundam Today we will touch on.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: Oh, thank God. Wow, cool robots.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: We'll touch on them a little bit.
We're really not here to talk about the soap opera anime politics today. We are here specifically to talk about the little boxes of plastic bits that you snap together in moments of frustration and joy.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: You're talking about Lego.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: Yeah, this is Lego.
[00:03:12] Speaker D: That, that is a plastic model kit, just not quite the same.
[00:03:18] Speaker B: It's close, but we're here to talk about Gunpla and we have a wonderful guest here today. Before I give a proper introduction to our guest, I must first remind you I'm Kennedy Cooper, the pseudo ring ma master. Something I don't know, we have no hierarchy.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: No hierarchy.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: You say that, but yeah.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: We have a hierarchy.
[00:03:42] Speaker C: Where there's a bill, there's a hierarchy.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Hierarchy with the editor at the top, let's be honest.
We've also got. We also got Brandon Buchanan. As always, Brandon, thank you for being here.
[00:03:54] Speaker C: Hi everybody.
People don't, you know, we've talked about this in an offhanded way, but I've been in New Mexico for the last couple of months and it's been great. You know, this might be like a minor detail to listeners, but for us it's just been great working together, doing cool event. It's just been a blast. So this is just part of the ride here.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: And we've got our in house statistician, Andrew Fields. Andrew, thank you for lending a thin veneer of legitimacy to the podcast. As always, the real numbers were the.
[00:04:29] Speaker A: Friends you made along the way.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: That's a statistics fact because a statistician said it. And we have our guest voice actor, streamer all around. Interesting Internet, lovely person and a big GUNPLA fan. Bailey Wolf, welcome to the show.
[00:04:47] Speaker D: Thank you. It's good to be here.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: You have a cool last name.
[00:04:51] Speaker D: Thank you. I made it myself.
[00:04:53] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: You know, as somebody who made my own name, I approve of these sorts of activities.
[00:04:58] Speaker D: Fantastic.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: So glad to have you here today. Total delight. And I was just thrilled that you chose this as a topic. Something that is near and dear to my heart. You know, I have put myself in the position as making this show of just volunteering to learn about people's niche interests, for better or worse. But this time I didn't have to learn shit. I was just spewing stuff at the co hosts and they were just trying to slow me down as I overwhelmed them with information because this is my jam.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: But Bailey Kennedy, this is the episode where you are the stats expert. Like there are stats with gunpla and you're the expert on this one?
[00:05:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm the in house statistician this week and so Bailey. But this episode is not about why I love Gunpla. I want to hear what made you want to talk about this with us today.
[00:05:51] Speaker D: Big robot. It's all about Big Robo.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: Cool robot.
[00:05:56] Speaker D: I mean, I don't know, I guess like in the late 90s to like early whatever because that never really ended. I just liked watching shows about giant robots and I was like shit, giant robots.
[00:06:10] Speaker B: The late 90s to the later 90s.
[00:06:13] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well I mean really, I remember that period. I mean if we're going historically then it's late 70s, not that I was alive to hasn't ended. And then giant robots everywhere and they keep getting bigger and better and more interesting and doing wild and crazy stuff based on the same designs in some cases. And it's ah, so much variation. And then watching the community find new ways to do things with seemingly basic kits has been incredible. Just seeing like people throw on like ah yes, I did it with like you know, tiny rare earth magnets or I throw a whole bunch of LEDs at it or hey, I, I picked up airbrushing and now I can candy coat a thing and it's amazing and I can't do that but I will one day try.
[00:07:05] Speaker A: Wow, cool robot.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly, that's going to be my line.
[00:07:08] Speaker A: This entire.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: I've even seen outrageous stuff like people use it, this is rare obviously, but people using you know, tiny pieces of real gemstone, you know, stuff like, I mean obviously not hyper valuable but like, like you can get a very small low grade ruby or something like that and do if. And people are out there doing just the wackiest stuff you can imagine.
[00:07:31] Speaker D: There was one that was bedazzling like yeah, it's a giant robot but there's so much room for like human expression. So even people who don't think they're artists or artistic or whatever are still creating art whether they realize it or not.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: And in that way it is actually, I mean we kind of referenced Lego at the top of the program. But actually Gunpla really does have a similar level of creative expression in some ways where you have these kits that are highly interchangeable in a lot of ways.
And there's often also a lot of the kits even include like alternate hands, arms, weapons, legs, heads, you know, really inviting you to make it your own right away. You know, do you want to put your particular kit in an action pose? Do you want it to look like it's downtime and the mobile suit's being repaired. You know, these are like all options that are given to you right out of the box. And then if you just add your creativity on top of that, you know, the possibilities are endless. Wow, cool. Robot Gunpla has a pretty interesting history. You know, Gundam itself being one of the first sort of serious anime properties and is sort of considered like a father property in this regard. It wasn't the literally the first serious anime, but it was the first serious, more serious leaning anime that took on such a big cultural presence. And so because of that, Mobile Suit Gundam created this whole new job within the anime industry called mechanical design.
So mechanical design did not exist as a role in the anime industry before Mobile Suit Gundam, this guy, huh?
[00:09:17] Speaker D: Not even for Macross, because I thought Macross was the year before it was.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: But they. Macross actually kind of learned from Gundam a little bit, how to be more consistent.
Like it actually kind of went back like Macross inspired Gundam and then Gundam inspired. Because they were kind of contemporaries, they ended up kind of inspiring each other to some extent. And so there were people working on Macross that were kind of doing stuff bridging on this sort of role, but it wasn't a formal role yet in the way that with Mobile Suit Gundam, they really were like, okay, we're going to make this a thing.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: This franchise is a job creator. It's a job creator.
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Typically, yes, in the very literal sense of created a brand new job in the industry that didn't exist before.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: You know what? I want a politician that pushes off Gunpla for being a job creator.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: So Kunio Okawara is credited as the first mechanical design person with that role in anime. He basically created the role and he was drawing robots for several different series at the time. And when they came to him with Mobile Suit Gundam, they said, you know, we really want this to be a little more realistic and grounded than anything else that's on the air right now. We want to use some real engineering concepts. And he really latched onto that and thought it was really interesting and created the initial designs that we know of. You know, the RX87 Gundam that is so iconic.
A lot of the initial Xeon designs like the Goof and the DOM were created by him.
So some of those initial kind of iconic designs.
And you know, he really, he really, like I said, he really latched onto and found interesting this idea that they wanted to do something that was more mechanical engineering focused. So this is important because in the first year that Mobile Suit Gundam was being made as a show, toy company called Clover made the toys for Mobile Suit Gundam. And they were basically standard action figures, and they were not successful.
So then you have Bandai steps in to make the toys after the first year because the show is starting to pick up in popularity, but the toys aren't selling, so they switch toy companies to Bandai. And Bandai says, well, it seems like your audience is young adults and teenagers, more so than kids.
Young adults and teenagers don't buy action figures. They buy military model kits.
So what if we tried making a military model kit from a Gundam and we sold that? And at the time, it was a totally. Everyone was like, I don't know, like it was an untested. Nobody was doing this sort of thing or like an anime.
And so it was like a totally untested thing. But it ended up being a huge success right away.
And so obviously, Bandai ended up being very involved in the future of Gundam moving forward as a franchise. Especially involved with Gunpla. And Gunpla again, just taking off right away.
Evolving over the years, starting with very simple kits that required a lot of glue and more specialized tools in general and things like that. Moving to the modern day, where now the kits use a system that they developed specifically for this. That was one of the first systems to be able to do this. That allows for multiple colors of plastic in a single injected part so that you don't necessarily have to paint these.
Everything is based on ball joints. There's no glue required for most of the kits. Only some of the very advanced kits require glue. Now everything's just a lot more accessible. So the hobbies become increasingly accessible. The term Gunpla wasn't coined until the early 2000s. So about halfway through the existence of this hobby, which I do, I remember these kits being around in the 90s and thinking they were very interesting. But they definitely weren't called Gunpla back then.
[00:13:40] Speaker D: No.
Well, I mean, they're plastic model kits. And then the natural evolution of that is Gunpla.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: So I swear to God, by the end of this episode, I better not have a gun plug being sent to my house because I bought it.
[00:13:53] Speaker D: Oh, you will.
[00:13:54] Speaker A: This is so fucking cool.
[00:13:56] Speaker D: You will.
[00:13:58] Speaker B: I agree.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: There's so many different Gunplas.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: Gunply, we told you use the microphone to sell people stuff. So.
Oh no.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: Oh no. I fell victim to my own idea.
[00:14:11] Speaker D: Wouldn't you like a nice new RX78 too?
It could be HG.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: Yes, I agree. I'LL buy your entire stock.
[00:14:20] Speaker D: It sounds cool. It's easy to make.
There's even entry grade. It's even easier. You still get that iconic design.
[00:14:29] Speaker C: Bailey, I think we need a shill more than a statistician on this podcast.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we're kicking Andrew off, bringing you on.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: Oh, no.
I don't know if these. These aren't Gunpla per se, but they have one piece model kits.
[00:14:45] Speaker B: Well, yeah, so, yeah, so like I was saying, that's a great place to start.
[00:14:49] Speaker C: Andrew, don't worry, you're gonna keep your job just so you can afford to buy those toys. We're all gonna go up together, my friend. Don't you worry.
[00:14:59] Speaker D: But don't worry, we're gonna be really encouraging and show you all the things you could do. But hey, if you're gonna do.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: You are the worst.
[00:15:05] Speaker D: I am.
I am.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: I just met you and this is mean. But you're the worst.
[00:15:11] Speaker D: I made money in commercial voiceover and you brought me here. That was your mistake.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: I made a huge strategic error. My numbers failed me.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I mean, you know, this has influenced other anime and this is important because, you know, these things influence each other. It's not just that the show influences Gunpla and this is why it's inevitable that we'll end up talking about the themes of the show at least a tiny bit. It's not just that the show influences Gunpla. Gunpla also has ended up influencing the show to some extent.
You know, the popularity of certain designs as models will sometimes lead to them coming back in the show.
Also, like the concept of Core Fighters, which are very popular in like the Zeta Gundam era in particular, which is this idea of some mobile suits having this transformable core that can pop out and become a fighter and fly away, basically as an emergency escape vehicle. The concept of Core Fighters came from the toy company side first, not from the show.
So, you know, these things end up having this interesting influence on each other. And then it comes full circle when Gundam as a, as a franchise creates shows like Gundam Build Fighters and Gundam Build Divers, which are anime shows about kids building Gunpla and then having in some cases kind of magical or in some cases more grounded in like a sci fi semi realistic technology battles with the Gunpla that they've made, which is also now something that they're trying to make real on top of that.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: So these robots I'm looking at are really cool. Dammit.
[00:17:00] Speaker D: Sorry, what was that about the unicorn?
[00:17:01] Speaker B: Yeah, you need them.
[00:17:02] Speaker D: I think I heard H.G. unicorn.
[00:17:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: What?
[00:17:06] Speaker C: You know, thinking about just the long running, you know, time of the show. Has the popularity of models that have been purchased impacted the meta of like the show's arms race, the evolution of the like, are there certain aspects that get held back because the toy is more popular or vice versa?
[00:17:28] Speaker B: Definitely, to some extent. Although I will say there is the attitude a little bit also of like doing fan service to the goofy mobile suits that are like, only beloved by a certain segment, like the show really loves to just be like, oh, here's a short segment with this goofy ass mobile suit that we know most of you hate but like 10 of you love.
[00:17:50] Speaker A: Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I'm gonna be one of those ten every time.
[00:17:54] Speaker C: Oh, we've gotta go to the, to the garage and find this thing. This is a decommissioned model and they play some nostalgic music and it's the, the thing from eight years ago.
[00:18:06] Speaker B: You actually are nailing this.
[00:18:08] Speaker C: Yeah, gotcha.
[00:18:10] Speaker D: Just like that.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: Yep, that is exactly.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: This is just like my Japanese anime.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: Like it just in the background, oh, look at that old decommissioned model. And it's just some goofy ass that most people are like, oh, thank God that they don't put that on the screen that often anymore. But there's a small segment of the.
[00:18:26] Speaker D: Just let me buy it that are.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: Like, oh my God, yes. And they're pulling out their models and holding them up and yeah.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: This, the Gundam, like, this just sounds like a happy fandom.
[00:18:40] Speaker C: Well, here's the thing, and I was thinking about this at the top of the show. Any fandom needs people that don't care about the lore in order for it to be successful. Like if you think about Fast and the Furious, like you can imagine, like that IQ meme, like, there are people who think it's like a dumb show.
Then there are people who understand and appreciate all the lore. And then once you've transcended it, you're like, it's about the power of being a dumb guy in today's modern world.
Or if you think about Superman, you know, there's international fans in Mexico or Brazil. They just like that he can punch people and he's number one at punching for something like Gundam. Do you want people who just say, wrote, think of Jurassic World's out right now.
You think, how? What percentage of those people care about the lore of the Jurassic park series versus the number of people who just go dinosaur? I go, it's a big difference.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: Wow, cool dinosaur.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: But no, there's. There's a lot of I mean, Gundam is kind of an anti war, but.
[00:19:46] Speaker C: Obviously there are lots of Gunpla fans that do like the lore, of course.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: But also from a vague perspective, if you're just sort of dabbling in Gundam as a. As a franchise and watching just bits and pieces of the miniseries, it's just sort of vaguely got an anti war vibe. And so if you're gonna stick around, you probably kind of chill.
Yeah, more than. Well, it depends on which one you're watching. I'm just saying, from the surface level of somebody who's not paying that much attention. Right. Like, what are they gonna pick up on at a glance? They're gonna be like, kind of anti.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: War or what is it good for cool robots?
[00:20:24] Speaker C: I. I distinctly asked Kennedy, during the planning for this show, as a. I've. I've seen a few Gundam series. I asked, are there any good wars portrayed in the Gundam franchise? No, they always go.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: The message is always that it's bad.
[00:20:40] Speaker C: Horrible direction. Yeah.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: Counterpoint. Wow, cool robot.
[00:20:45] Speaker D: Yes, but look at the damage. Look at all the people impacted because. Okay, but Gundam is a series that actually cares about people. The people on the ground, the people on the ship.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: Robot equals cool. I. I don't understand. Robots are cooler than people. I don't understand your complex morals.
No. I'll go to animal cruelty with Pokemon. Perfect.
[00:21:06] Speaker D: Perfect.
[00:21:07] Speaker B: That's fine. Yeah, that works.
[00:21:09] Speaker D: BattleTech fans don't come for my head. I play Mechwarriors. It's okay.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: I do think. I do think Gundam does tend to attract a certain kind of fan base overall, because it does have these themes, like, what is a free society?
Are there winners in war?
These are things that only attract certain kinds of people to some extent. It's still a large segment of the world's population, though, as measured by the fact that this is one of the biggest franchises ever.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: I'm liking some of these small robots with big wings. I'm liking some of these small robots with big wings.
[00:21:46] Speaker D: I am.
[00:21:47] Speaker A: Sincerely. Photos at home. This is not a bit. I'm. I'm looking through the.
[00:21:51] Speaker D: Which small robots with big wings?
[00:21:53] Speaker B: You should get one.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: Continue, Kennedy, Continue. I'm sorry for interrupting you. I hate you all. Except Brandon. Except Brandon. You're cool.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: All right.
[00:22:03] Speaker C: Not only should you get one, I would bet that there's some sort of discount or special offer if you were to get more than one you can share with.
[00:22:10] Speaker A: Okay. I no longer think Brandon is cool, y'.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: All.
[00:22:13] Speaker D: Oh, Brandon's definitely cool.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah, Brandon's acting super cool right now. So, you know, with it in mind that we're talking about this show that had this long lasting impact on how engineering is viewed, created this new concept of standardization within the world that it's from.
We're of course also talking today about NATO standardization.
[00:22:41] Speaker D: Oh, no.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: Because what is the basic knowledge of Gundam mechanics? One of the foundational documents that helped to start standardizing Gundam and Mobile Suit Theory from an engineering perspective so that they would remain consistent across relative series.
What is that? Except just a stanag, you know, which is of course a standardization agreement within NATO. It's just. It's just.
[00:23:10] Speaker A: It's just.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: It's just the same thing.
[00:23:13] Speaker A: More like NATO. No.
[00:23:18] Speaker C: For. For people who are American and they think of NATO as an irrelevant institution. Talk about the history of NATO, what impact their standards have on the global economy and the economy. Economy of warfare.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: Yeah. So I mean, NATO. One of NATO's biggest impacts as existing is on standardization of military technology. Like, one of the big goals of bringing together this huge military alliance was to create interoperability, basically. Like if you're in Ukraine or Germany or Spain or the United States and somebody hands you a box of bullets, you should know what that box of bullets is instantly. Much like how whether you're in the United States or South Africa or Brazil or India and you buy a Gunpla kit, all the parts should be kind of standard and easy to understand.
Right.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: Like, this intersects with my other professional. Like y' all know me as the statistician. I'm also. I went to school for industrial organizational psychology. Psychology, no big deal. You know what that is? And one of the big problems In World War II, planes weren't standardized and pilots kept crashing and they hired expensive, A lot of experts to come to the conclusion that's because the planes are built different, stupid. Like this plane, you press this to land, but in a different model, it's the crash. If you press this at the wrong time lever. So, like, that was a big problem in World War II.
[00:24:51] Speaker C: I don't really think it's a big deal. I'm built different. I crash out all the time and it's fine.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, you are built different. You're Brandon, you're. You're built different brands and that's your full name.
[00:25:02] Speaker D: I love a good old UX nightmare.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Well, there's that aspect. There's also the aspect of, you know, these planes come back from battle, they're all damaged. You're like, okay, let's take these four damaged planes and try to make two to three good Ones again.
But then. Oh, they don't. They don't use the same. This one uses a different fuel hose than this one. Oh, this one uses a different clamp than this one. Oh, the bolts on this one are different. Like, that shit sucks, actually, when you're in warfare. That's horrible.
Now, obviously we're not saying this in support of warfare, and in fact, one of the other big things that we want to talk about, about, you know, obviously this has a benefit for people in warfare, but what are some of the downsides of standardization? Well, there are also some topics that Gundam likes to get into, like how do things end up on the black market that shouldn't. Well, standardization actually doesn't help with this problem. In fact, if anything, NATO standardization has made the black market arms trade arguably worse in some ways.
[00:26:11] Speaker D: Could you cite some examples?
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Well, I mean, really, I should backtrack to explain this because I can give an example. But to really make the examples make sense, what you've got to understand is that.
So standardization of equipment means that now, you know, that box of bullets that you made here in the United States is good for people all over the place. Right. And so it's good for guns all over the place and things like that.
And so that means that the black market arms trade can kind of get a little more fluid and international and flexible right away.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: It's easier to get stuff from maybe a more shady country that has looser laws and bring it to another country, right?
[00:26:57] Speaker D: Oh, like us. Yeah.
[00:26:59] Speaker C: And definitely the United States contributes a lot to the black market directly. Right?
[00:27:05] Speaker A: What?
[00:27:06] Speaker B: And so, like, you take, for example, like in Ukraine right now, and I'm not necessarily inherently against helping Ukraine in this situation. I want to make that perfectly clear because it may, you know, if I talk any kind of criticism, people may assume I'm definitely not on Russia's side here. So let's just make that clear right away.
In. In Ukraine, you know, we're sending tons of arms over there and a lot of them are going unaccounted for.
Right.
[00:27:37] Speaker A: I violated the Geneva Convention.
[00:27:39] Speaker B: And honestly, Ukraine and Russia as a conflict is a very Gundam esque situation in some respects. Just in the way that you have these war crimes going on that are really not being accounted for and these corporate interests just kind of selling arms to both sides without a care in the world. Right? So, yeah, so in Ukraine you have this situation where, you know, we're sending tons of arms over there and some of them are going unaccounted for. And because of that, you Know, some of them are ending up in potentially unsavory hands. Well, part of how they can end up in unsavory hands in the first place is because of that standardization. Right. If the bullets didn't match the guns of the people or things of that nature. Right. Like, if these things didn't match up, then they wouldn't bother to take them because things are so standardized. Now, this and Ukraine is just an obvious current example, but we could look to basically any conflict of the last 20 years that's taken place in especially the European or African sphere, and there's just lots and lots of these NATO standard arms being traded around in these various situations that are rather unscrupulous. And again, because it's all standardized and everything just works with everything else, that just makes it very easy for anyone to just kind of grab anything they see and sell it to somebody. Right.
Because it's like somebody's going to buy it. I just want to say, work for somebody's gun.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: The line the bullets didn't match up with the guns of the people sounds so metal. The bullets didn't match up with the guns of the people. Like, there's some potential there. I'm cooking.
[00:29:25] Speaker B: And so much like the message of Gundam, I want to make it clear that, like, you know, I stand with the civilians of Ukraine who are the real losers in this situation. Right. And that's the constant message of Gundam is that who loses in every war? It's the civilians on the battleground where the war is being fought.
So that's a pretty consistent message in the show.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: War bad, but cool robot, right?
[00:29:47] Speaker B: Yeah. The people in the robots might be having a good time. The people who lived in the houses where the robots just fought the people did not have a good time.
[00:29:54] Speaker D: I mean, it's a cool robot, but at what cost?
[00:29:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: Do we really need cool robot?
[00:30:00] Speaker B: That's a question the show is also kind of asking.
Whoa.
And I think that's also to tie these points together before we get into goofy part of the show, to kind of tie all these points together. I think that's the point I'm trying to ask here a little bit. If anything, I don't make a lot of points on this show because I'm not very smart, but if I'm making any kind of point here, it's that, should we be making this many arms and putting them in all the places we're putting them? That's a question that maybe we should be asking sometimes as we're going along the way. Here. And it's always a complicated question to ask because somebody's, you know, there's always lives and freedom and things like that at point. Some stake in any conflict. And it's always hard to know which conflicts do we side with or not in some kind of way. Which is why, of course, we're going to need to establish an international governing body to regulate mobile suits. So let's get into the voting booth.
[00:31:03] Speaker A: Vote, vote, vote.
[00:31:05] Speaker D: That's been tried.
[00:31:07] Speaker B: Let's figure out. Well, we've got to do it right, baby.
[00:31:10] Speaker D: Okay. But we still get the lesbians, right? Yeah, perfect.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: The real cool robots were the lesbians we met along the way.
[00:31:17] Speaker D: Correct.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: That's actually surprisingly common theme in Gundam.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: Let me dip both.
Let me shit post with my mouth.
[00:31:29] Speaker B: No, you're. You're just on point.
You're trying to shitpost. But you're just right about this one.
[00:31:34] Speaker D: Gundam was made for you.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Gundam is about the power of autistic gay people to communicate with each other in special ways that other people don't understand.
[00:31:43] Speaker A: But I'm. You know what? Maybe I am gay. I don't know. I thought.
[00:31:49] Speaker D: What a way to find out.
[00:31:50] Speaker B: So if mobile suits really existed, all of a sudden, let's say they came into existence. I don't know, maybe in the last 10 years or something becomes clear that we need a NATO like body to manage which countries are allowed to have mobile suits. Right. It can't just be anyone. Okay? That's not how we do things here on planet Earth. Okay.
So we need a. We need to create a NATO like body to regulate which nations are allowed to have mobile suits. So I want to ask. I want to turn this over to the panel. Which nations do you think? If. If a. If a mobile suit NATO formed in our current world, which nations are going to be allowed to have mobile suits? And which nations are going to be shut the fuck out from mobile suit technology and mobile suit development? At least officially we'll get into that.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: No mobile suits for North Korea.
[00:32:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: China's gonna be struggling with that.
Like, China's gonna have to fight for them.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: No mobile suits for Iran. Right? Like, that's gonna be. That's gonna be a hard line by most of the Western nations.
[00:32:57] Speaker D: It's gonna be like most of the nuclear power is saying like, oh, hey, you know, all those weapons we built and then said you couldn't have? We're going to apply that to Gundam.
[00:33:04] Speaker C: So quick question. Is Japan not going to have a Gundam Ridiculous. Or a mobile suit? Is Japan Going to really sit this one out.
[00:33:14] Speaker B: No, Japan's not sitting this out. Are we sure now it's not possible.
[00:33:18] Speaker C: Is, you know, maybe there's someone in Japan saying, hey, given the themes of this.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: No, I just think. I just think that maybe, you know, we talked about like the surface level enjoyment of media. There's a lot of people that are just going, wow, cool.
[00:33:34] Speaker D: I mean, I've already built two.
[00:33:36] Speaker A: Yeah, they're just going to. It's going to be for defense purposes only. It'll only be for defense. Promise you will only use this for defense.
[00:33:45] Speaker C: Is South Korea going to get one?
[00:33:48] Speaker D: Yeah, whether anybody wants it or not.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: I don't want it. I don't want it.
[00:33:53] Speaker D: My people are going to build a robot. All right.
[00:33:55] Speaker B: I think that's another non preventable, like.
[00:33:57] Speaker D: The technical capacity in Korea. Let's assume that, you know, technical limitations are there. Then South Korea is definitely capable and given dissatisfaction with the United States and how they've handled everything.
I think South Korea would absolutely build a robot and it would be better than ours.
[00:34:16] Speaker A: Look, name one bad thing America has done. Just one. I bet you can't name one bad thing.
[00:34:23] Speaker D: Running over children with tanks.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: Okay, that's really bad.
[00:34:25] Speaker D: Yeah, that is really bad.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: Pretty bad.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: That's awful. Yeah. America should be canceled.
[00:34:31] Speaker C: Does this Brazil get a mobile suit?
Since we're just saying everyone that can make one will make one. We're near the tier of Brazil, Pakistan.
What are the countries that would have to make a real economic investment?
[00:34:48] Speaker B: I think Pakistan does surprise us all after no announcement of its development. Just one day. Just a fucking banger mobile suit.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: Everybody, we would like to tell you, no warning.
Look at our cool robot.
[00:35:03] Speaker D: And India flips a shit.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: And you know, they didn't brag about it while it was in development. They kept it real hush hush until it was ready to go. But then once it's ready, they're like, hey, check this out.
[00:35:14] Speaker C: Does Canada make one? I guess so.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: Yeah, Canada makes one. But it's just for the logging industry.
It's not for comics.
[00:35:23] Speaker D: Oh, I see where you came from with that.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: Beep beep beep. That's the base of logging arm.
[00:35:29] Speaker D: Sorry, what was that about? G Gundam.
[00:35:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean there's precedent. So I think Canada's. Canada's doing the.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: Everybody, there's a giant tree trying to destroy the world. Who could save us? Canada with their logging Gundam.
[00:35:45] Speaker D: There is a logging Gundam.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:48] Speaker D: For. For Canada. For Neo Canada.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: Yep. Cool.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: Cool robot. Cool robot. Cool robot.
[00:35:55] Speaker D: Yeah, but, but that series is Also full of giant racist stereotypes. So.
[00:36:00] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:36:02] Speaker D: As robots.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: You know, I take that back. That is not. It's.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: It's. I don't know. It's like. It's a weird. It's a weird series because it's. It's definitely full of racist stereotypes. But then I've met so many people that have like some sort of quirky sense of national pride towards the national Gundam from the show.
[00:36:20] Speaker D: Oh, Tequila Gundam.
[00:36:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Like. Like I know a lot of people that stand Tequila Gundam. Even though it's problem.
And it's like. What do you say. What do you say to a Gundam fan from Mexico who stands Tequila Gundam other than. Keep going, sir.
[00:36:41] Speaker C: You know, when it comes to this whole thing, the. The Gundams. Andrew.
[00:36:48] Speaker B: You.
[00:36:48] Speaker C: You. This whole process. Hold on. I'm going to re. Give this take.
Andrew. This entire process of falling in love with a faction and then having to awkwardly backtrack from it is actually a core part of the Gundam fan.
[00:37:02] Speaker A: What's the American one in this series? What's the American one in the series? What's the American one?
[00:37:07] Speaker D: Embarrassing.
[00:37:09] Speaker A: Duh. Duh.
[00:37:11] Speaker D: What was its actual name? It's Chibidy Crockett.
[00:37:15] Speaker C: It's this Hamburger Supreme.
[00:37:18] Speaker B: No, it has a really shitty Maxter.
[00:37:24] Speaker D: Yeah. And it's definitely like a halfback Gundam.
[00:37:27] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just a Gundam. Ready for football.
[00:37:31] Speaker D: We deserved that.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: You know what? Gul Maxter. National pride behind Maxter.
It's so bad. This is the worst thing I've seen in my life. It fits America.
[00:37:46] Speaker B: Yeah. G Gundam is definitely the part of the Gundam franchise that you always end up apologizing for as a Gundam fan.
People ask you about. The people will ask you about it from time to time.
They'll be like, hey, what about the Gundam with the racist Gundams and the skull measuring Gundams? And you're like.
[00:38:06] Speaker D: It had good music. And that's about all I can say.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: It's a vibe when you're watching it, but you cannot think about it. You have to turn your brain fully off. You cannot engage for one moment. If you start to think for one second, you will go, wait, what the.
[00:38:24] Speaker C: So you said Bandai Namco was having trouble getting into the American market.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: When is the most pop one of the most popular ones here? It shouldn't surprise you.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: Oh God. Please tell me there's nine IQ supporting Gundam. Ugh.
[00:38:39] Speaker D: Sorry. What was that about Nobel Gundam?
[00:38:40] Speaker A: I'm just looking.
I don't. I'm trying to. Let me.
[00:38:48] Speaker B: So if we. If we had mobile suits. If we had mobile suits in real life. America would obviously think. Okay, well, actually, let me take one tiny step back before we.
[00:38:57] Speaker C: Before we get to that. Before we get to that, I'll just mention that, you know, there's always been a little bit of weird science and eugenics in the Gundam series. I mean, blonde Arabs. Okay, let's keep going.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I have one shitpost that's not actually a Gundam series character. Just one.
[00:39:15] Speaker D: Good luck.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: Good luck.
Political shit. Posting that doesn't accidentally hit a real Gundam theme is super hard.
And.
[00:39:25] Speaker C: And also, everyone loves that blonde Arab.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. He's like one of the most popular characters of all time.
[00:39:31] Speaker A: Remember, it's all about cool robot.
[00:39:34] Speaker D: Blonde haired one has.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Even though. Even though he goes. Even though he goes crazy at one point and does a little mini genocide just because he's feeling.
[00:39:42] Speaker D: Was that mini.
[00:39:43] Speaker A: No, that cute maxi mini genocide.
[00:39:46] Speaker B: He tried to make it a maxi genocide, but then he got stopped from. He got stopped from supersizing his genocide meal.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: So I need an adult.
[00:39:57] Speaker C: When you have a truly adorable small bean character in a franchise, they can do a little genocide as a treat. Many.
[00:40:05] Speaker D: Okay, so Selena's allowed, but no one else.
[00:40:08] Speaker A: Yeah, you know what? I'm starting to regret liking the cool robots. I'm starting to regret this.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: So America would definitely. Okay, well, actually, again, I gotta start this over. Okay, so the Gundam, at any given time in the show, it really just means whatever mobile suit is so ferocious that it scares the shit out of everybody. Initially it means made out of Gundanium, but that doesn't last very long.
And pretty soon every mobile suits made out of Gundanium.
And so basically to come out and say we've got the Gundam really just means we've got the best shit ever at the moment. And so America would definitely say, think that we have the Gundam, but we would be wrong.
[00:40:51] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, for sure.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: So I want to ask which nation would actually develop the Gundam in this scenario where real nations of our current era and our current politics are making mobile suits. Who's actually. Who's got the. Who's got the killer mobile suit that can't be beat and also can't be piloted by a normal person has to be piloted by a very sensitive psychic.
[00:41:16] Speaker D: Teenager who may also be trans.
[00:41:19] Speaker B: Yes, probably trans. Definitely gay, otherwise also autistic in every case.
So what do y' all think? Who's gonna have. Who's gonna have the. Did you say China?
[00:41:30] Speaker A: I said China.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: I. I also. That was kind of low key. I don't Want to sway the vote, but low key.
[00:41:35] Speaker C: No, I, I, I actually was gonna say South Korea because it's gonna get stolen from China.
And so either America is going to steal it or South Korea is going to steal it. And for the sake of drama, let's give it to South Korea like that.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: I like drama. I've heard of squid game. They like.
[00:41:55] Speaker C: I don't know if, I don't know if the, I don't know if the Chinese military is prepared for having something stolen from them.
[00:42:03] Speaker A: And I mean, like Korea. Yeah. With their relationship with Korea.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Like. Yeah, I think you mean their increasingly warming relationship. The BRICS nations are winning now. Bailey, we kind of lost you for a second.
[00:42:14] Speaker D: So I don't know if you want to. My hard drive was full not of Gundam, but I tried to make changes and that kind of killed everything for a second there.
[00:42:25] Speaker B: So what was your thoughts on this? Because you were about to give them and then we lost it.
[00:42:30] Speaker D: I feel that South Korea would be making one on its own, but would be happy to obtain resources from elsewhere. But not necessarily as theft, but as cooperation in a, in a new economic market or in a different economic market than the U.S.
yeah, I was going.
[00:42:52] Speaker B: To say maybe with the BRICS market. China and South Korea are just, they're just working together on the Gundam.
[00:42:59] Speaker A: Ironically, this is one market that isn't brick.
[00:43:03] Speaker B: Donald Trump. This is the result. Donald Trump has created a situation where China and South Korea are going to work together on the Gundam. I think that's actually what we're putting here. And it totally makes sense.
[00:43:14] Speaker D: Like, you want to tear up a Gundam. Good luck here.
[00:43:17] Speaker A: This is going to happen next year. Prepare yourself for the Gundam that's going to attack America.
[00:43:22] Speaker C: The United States is just woefully unprepared for a Gundam arms race right now.
Call your senate, call your senator voters. Call your senator, call your House Republicans. We are just woefully unprepared for peer to peer Gundam transactions here.
[00:43:38] Speaker A: If you're in a big city, call your mayor. You're the people representing you. Like, if you live in New York City, make sure Zorran is building the big.
[00:43:47] Speaker D: The minute he gets elected.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: Yeah, we got to get him elected. And working on the Gundam. The Brick. The bricks. Nations are, are definitely gonna absolutely destroy us on Gundam building right now.
It's outrageous.
[00:44:02] Speaker C: Wait a second. I want to provide a. Maybe this. You, you're a Balkanization fan. Maybe the state of California can provide a competitive Gundam.
[00:44:13] Speaker A: Gavin Newsom, please build the gun.
[00:44:16] Speaker B: Oh, no. Yeah.
Oversee The Gundam. He would totally it up.
[00:44:22] Speaker D: No, he'd probably go, oh, no, the Gundam is trans. And then insult it.
[00:44:26] Speaker C: I. I actually think. Think Gavin Newsom would not ruin the Gundam.
[00:44:31] Speaker A: Well, here's the thing.
[00:44:33] Speaker C: I think he would have just enough sense to realize that he'd mess it up.
[00:44:37] Speaker A: Like, here's the thing. He would have a Gundam commissioned to attack the homeless. And it just so happens it can defend California against other threats. Like, it would be anti homeless.
[00:44:50] Speaker D: You know, Gavin Newsom's gonna build Liberty Crime.
[00:44:54] Speaker C: Oh, no.
[00:44:57] Speaker B: Gavin Newsom would build a Gundam just covered in corporate sponsorships, like a NASCAR car.
[00:45:05] Speaker D: That's not a Gundam.
[00:45:06] Speaker B: It would be a Gavin Newsom would let Elon Musk Design 30 of the Gundam and then fire him.
[00:45:18] Speaker D: When it's burning, and then the pilots die inside.
[00:45:26] Speaker A: Look, it's a cyber truck in the sky. No, that's just Elon Musk's new Gundam.
[00:45:31] Speaker B: Y'. All. Do y' all think. Do y' all think the first news of the Gundam, like, the.
The first leak that the Gundam project is in development as a joint project between China and South Korea, as we've agreed.
And it's one of those situations I'm imagining where, like, one of them has built, like, a really good mobile suit frame, and the other one has made, like, the Saikamu or something like that. No.
So it's like, you gotta. You gotta have that. That perfect pilot control system slotted into the perfect frame, and that's how you get the Gundam, you know? Is the news of this more likely to drop from WikiLeaks first or from the War Thunder forums?
[00:46:14] Speaker D: War Thunder, hands down.
[00:46:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
I was gonna joke and say War Thunders, but if you're making that a serious option.
[00:46:22] Speaker D: Yeah, hands down, given the number of times it's been a serious option.
[00:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: Like, I'm gonna make it clear. Somebody's gonna be like, hey, you need to add guns in, because they're really working.
[00:46:32] Speaker D: He's gonna be like, here's a tech spec. Enjoy.
[00:46:37] Speaker C: I don't understand why we're talking about the War Thunder forums. This is supposed to be a comedy show.
[00:46:45] Speaker A: You know what? You're so right.
[00:46:47] Speaker C: Why are we bringing in the real serious analysis?
[00:46:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I should have done it. I should have done. For a. For a more comedy question, I should have done WikiLeaks versus Glenn Greenwald. That would have been more comedic.
[00:46:58] Speaker C: Yeah, totally.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: I need some comedy right now because I still have a tab open with the Mobile Fighter G Gundam page on it, and I'm looking at all these Gundams from the G series, and it's like, I need some comedy. What is this?
[00:47:11] Speaker D: Okay, well, then look up Suletta, Mercury, and goat. No, no, do it, do it.
[00:47:17] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: What was the first one?
[00:47:20] Speaker D: Suletta, Mercury, S, U, L, E, T, T, A.
And then Mercury, S, U, L, E, T, T, A.
[00:47:30] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:47:30] Speaker D: Mercury, goat.
[00:47:34] Speaker B: Listeners at home, you do this, too. Pause. Pause the podcast.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: Voters at home, respect them.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: Voters at home, vote along by pausing the podcast and also Googling this.
[00:47:46] Speaker C: Well, I was gonna say that, Bailey, you definitely have a future on this show just for the fact that you're telling people to do things. We just need more and more of that around.
You know, we're gonna ask for. In fact, we're gonna tell. At the end of this show, we're gonna have you tell them to go on itunes. We're going to be like, go on itunes right now. Click their review button, leave this number of stars, Talk about your life before finding this podcast.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: Like, comment and subscribe.
[00:48:16] Speaker C: You're like, yeah, all that.
[00:48:17] Speaker B: Of course, would. Would NATO or Gundam? NATO that we've created here? Either one. Do you think. Do you think. Do you think it would outlaw new.
[00:48:26] Speaker D: Types using the real world as a reference?
[00:48:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:29] Speaker D: Then, yes.
[00:48:30] Speaker C: Yeah, almost immediately, without controversy.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: And I think it's even more important that no one can define what a new type. Like, that just makes it even more unlikely that we'll outlaw them.
[00:48:40] Speaker D: Well, no, that makes it even more likely that we will try.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:45] Speaker D: Eventually everyone would fall under that definition.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: Hooray.
Fascism.
[00:48:51] Speaker D: Anyway, go back to watching the goat.
Oh, watch the goat.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: We talked about how NATO standardization earlier has increased arms. Black markets.
Where do you think.
[00:49:06] Speaker A: Black markets.
[00:49:07] Speaker B: Where do you think the biggest black market for mobile suits in the world would be? And keep in mind, not only does this have to have the right cultural socioeconomic conditions, but also this has to be a place where you can move really large objects in and out without question or with minimal question.
[00:49:30] Speaker A: Romania.
[00:49:32] Speaker C: It seems like you're describing the United States.
[00:49:34] Speaker D: Right.
[00:49:35] Speaker A: You know what?
If.
[00:49:37] Speaker C: If we've decided that we're. That officially we can't compete here and that not even the state of California is going to make a contender, then surely the people of America will start just shipping these bad boys.
[00:49:51] Speaker D: You know, there's a star hit with a Gundam.
[00:49:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: Oh, I'm so looking forward to politicians justifying increasing police budget in order to combat the black market on Gunja. That is so fun.
[00:50:03] Speaker D: Yeah.
And get crushed.
[00:50:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
The police mobile suit just stomping through your Community destroying every third house. You know, just.
[00:50:15] Speaker A: Yeah, one of these episodes come up with a better future just once.
[00:50:20] Speaker D: A better future in which war is good.
Good luck.
[00:50:24] Speaker C: We had the episode where Jesse Ventura stopped Emperor Palpatine from coming to power.
[00:50:29] Speaker A: Oh, that is true. That is true.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: Also we had the episode where we abolished the Supreme Court and all we had to do was make horses wear pants. I think, I think that was worth it.
[00:50:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:50:40] Speaker A: The Senate. We abolished the Senate, not the Supreme Court.
Get your law right.
Get your people.
[00:50:48] Speaker B: Okay. I do agree that the United States would probably have the biggest black market for mobile suits in the world. But also I feel like we'd probably also just legalize personal mobile suit owner ownership. Right? Like, like you would just be able to buy a mobile suit. And so with that in mind, I kind of want to ask how lethal. How lethal is the street legal mobile suit in a. In the United States?
[00:51:14] Speaker A: They're going to pull up the second amendment on this one. They're going to pull out the second amendment.
[00:51:19] Speaker C: It's kind of interesting that, you know, this, this franchise is a little bit of a metaphor for American militarism. So it's kind of funny that now that we've brought this franchise into the real world, the United States is completely swamped in all of its problems.
So as far as how lethal a street legal suit is, it's going to be motivated by your, your, your fear of your neighbors. So it's going to be a pretty lethal Gundam.
[00:51:50] Speaker A: I mean this is definitely a state level thing, right?
[00:51:53] Speaker B: I was gonna get into that.
[00:51:55] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:51:56] Speaker C: It's gonna be as lethal as you can get your hands on. Just like a gun. I mean if you think about how lethal a gun is in the United States compared to anywhere else in the world, because. And it's also being really tough and impossible to implement. Enforced. There's going to be legal red tape. People are going to start their mobile suit militias and, and declare themselves sovereign citizens. It's going to be a real shit show. So as lethal as you can make them is probably as lethal as it's going to get. Now that's not.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: This is more or less the plot of like some of the. The mid.
The mid range of the. Of. Of Gundam Wing. Like the middle of it. Like yeah, every, everyone just Balkanizes and everybody just starts grabbing a mobile suit.
[00:52:42] Speaker A: This is not spark Joy.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: You either need a mobile suit or a friend with a mobile suit or otherwise you're probably getting stepped on by a mobile suit.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: The only way to stop a bad guy With a mobile suit is a good guy with mobile suit.
[00:52:54] Speaker B: That's unfortunately might be true.
[00:52:59] Speaker A: Bailey, did you just send me a private message?
[00:53:01] Speaker D: I have no idea what you mean, but you mentioned.
[00:53:04] Speaker A: Okay, that's somebody with your name.
[00:53:06] Speaker D: Second amendment.
[00:53:08] Speaker A: Oh my God.
[00:53:09] Speaker D: Associating the right to bear arms with Gundam. Then I have to send you Bear Guy.
[00:53:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's the right to bear. I. I regret everything. Why do I.
[00:53:20] Speaker D: It's adorable.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: You're adorable. I don't mean I am.
[00:53:25] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:53:25] Speaker A: Continue on.
[00:53:26] Speaker B: Oh, you also could have sent Gundam Arts.
[00:53:29] Speaker D: I thought about it. But Bear guy is way cuter. Especially if we're talking about California.
[00:53:35] Speaker A: You know what?
[00:53:35] Speaker D: And recent. Recent, you know, associations with the phrase choose the bear.
[00:53:41] Speaker A: Then I. I was born in California and I don't want to offend any Californians. I'm glad I don't live in.
[00:53:47] Speaker D: Okay, so buy a bear guy. Problem solved.
[00:53:50] Speaker A: I can barely stand this.
This is hard to bear.
Stop being so. I'm gonna be bearish about this and say no. Somebody stop me, please.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: Are you allowed to. Are you allowed to operate mobile suits only in certain areas, like a. Like a GU type situation? Or can you just like take them on the open road up Communication.
[00:54:13] Speaker D: If we have. If we have Gundams, our roads are trash.
[00:54:18] Speaker B: Yeah, they're getting destroyed by these big. That, that. Well, that's what I'm asking is like, you know, are mobile suits just taking over or are we saying like. No, you have to take them to the mobile suit range.
[00:54:28] Speaker A: Rural areas are going to have them legalized faster. Like they're more practical. Practical.
Whereas more urban areas are going to have tougher time.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: And to be clear, the mobile suit range is all of Wyoming.
[00:54:41] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Finally. You gotta get used.
[00:54:44] Speaker B: Well, actually, we'll probably have to come up. We'll do Tennessee also. We'll come with a couple of state. A couple of these worthless states. Wow. I've spent a lot of time.
My mom was born there.
[00:54:56] Speaker C: Okay, hang on, hang on. I actually will defend Tennessee as one of the top, top five most seen states. I think that if we're going to sacrifice a state in the union to be a shooting range, it should be Missouri.
[00:55:12] Speaker B: All right. You know what?
[00:55:16] Speaker A: I went on my honeymoon in Tennessee and it was nice being there for a few days, but I could not stay there. Like, you know, Dolly Parton, Dolly World, that area. That was nice. But also I would not want to stay there. Like the best. What? Yeah.
[00:55:28] Speaker C: Well, yeah, of course now I wouldn't want to stay in Tennessee neither.
I'm just saying that it's nice if you're driving through to go somewhere else. You wouldn't want to be driving through a hot parking lot. You would want those Tennessee trees to stay right where they are.
[00:55:44] Speaker A: They call it Tennessee, but when I went there, it was a three as far as I saw.
[00:55:48] Speaker B: I will say we got it. We got to be careful, y', all, because our Tennessee listeners are getting into their mobile suits right now.
They are not happy. They are not happy with anything we've said. Tennessee does have some good qualities. I'm just around stuff like that. Also, I just want to apologize to our one Wyoming listener, especially because you have to hand crank that radio to power it up. And so to feel insulted while you're hand cranking a radio, that's. I'm sure that burns.
[00:56:21] Speaker C: Wyoming and Missouri. Your sacrifices won't be forgotten.
[00:56:25] Speaker A: Wait. My wife is in Missouri right now. My wife is. As we speak, my wife is in Missouri. Please, let's just delay the plans for a few hours so she can get out.
[00:56:33] Speaker D: Does she own a Gundam?
[00:56:35] Speaker B: So, wait, so. So did we agree that are we turning certain states into mobile suit parks? Or are we. Are we saying mobile suits can just roam everywhere?
[00:56:44] Speaker A: Mobile suit parks?
[00:56:45] Speaker C: Well, they can't. They can roam everywhere, but also, there are mobile suit parks. This is America. You get the worst of both worlds.
[00:56:50] Speaker B: Okay, great.
[00:56:52] Speaker A: Everything's.
[00:56:53] Speaker D: I don't know how we would enforce any of.
Because, you know, there's gonna be like, you know, one city is gonna be like, ah, yes. Our municipal Gundams are like, you know, the. The most tactical Gundams you've ever seen. And then after that, it's all over for the rest of us.
[00:57:10] Speaker B: Oh, no. Yeah, you're right. Right? We're so. We're so fucked.
Cool robot.
[00:57:17] Speaker A: I say as I die.
[00:57:19] Speaker C: This started as a NATO standardization episode and became an American Gundam arms race.
[00:57:27] Speaker B: We kind of blew through a lot of the standardization questions, and now we're kind of lingering on these, which are a little more painful, I think.
But are there? Let's. There probably aren't going to be many from the sounds of it. So which states do require you to register your mobile suit? And we know California is one of them.
[00:57:46] Speaker A: Illinois. And it's going to piss off southern Illinois.
[00:57:49] Speaker C: Illinois.
[00:57:50] Speaker B: Big call.
[00:57:50] Speaker C: New York.
[00:57:51] Speaker B: New York.
[00:57:52] Speaker D: Minnesota, probably.
[00:57:55] Speaker C: Are we sure?
[00:58:02] Speaker B: I feel like it would go to vote in Minnesota many times and always narrowly lose the public vote.
[00:58:09] Speaker A: It just hit me. Gungans in Las Vegas. Holy shit. In Las Vegas.
[00:58:14] Speaker B: Those aren't Getting registered.
[00:58:16] Speaker A: Oh, they're not going to get registered. They're going. They're going to have all sorts of performances down there. Crazy stunts all the time of entertainment.
[00:58:25] Speaker C: Optimized Gundam.
[00:58:26] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure that's a series. You don't have to tell me about it.
[00:58:29] Speaker D: Check out Minnesota doesn't even require the registration of a firearm.
[00:58:33] Speaker B: Oh wow.
I feel like Washington state.
[00:58:36] Speaker C: The inside of it is all tick tock screen. It's just all monitors.
[00:58:42] Speaker B: It's all. Everything's computer.
[00:58:44] Speaker A: Everything is computer.
[00:58:47] Speaker D: In that case, which is the biggest Gundam streamer?
[00:58:50] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:58:53] Speaker A: Welcome back to my stream. Today I'm gonna be flying over Nevada desert.
[00:58:59] Speaker B: I'm. I'm really sorry. I'm so sorry in advance. Jake Paul.
[00:59:06] Speaker A: You don't have to apologize for the truth. Never apologize for the truth.
[00:59:09] Speaker D: You should sometimes apologize for the truth.
[00:59:12] Speaker A: Yeah, you know what? I was wrong. I changed my ways. You need to fucking apologize for. For the truth right now.
[00:59:18] Speaker B: I'm sorry. But you just know however I you. You'll be happy to know that like number two or three probably would be Simone Gertz.
[00:59:29] Speaker A: Hey everybody, it's me, Markiplier. And I'm here on my brand new gun. Let's go on a little journey, shall we?
[00:59:35] Speaker B: No, Markiplier wouldn't be that high up, but probably like Mark Rober, that guy that makes those glitter bombs. His Gundam channel would do good.
[00:59:44] Speaker A: A glitter bomb Gundam.
[00:59:47] Speaker D: Oh, I need to show you a Bedazzled Gundam. One sec.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Amazing. I'm beautiful.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: Wait, no, I'm sorry. I was wrong. The in. In. In the mobile suit era, by far the Mr. Beast of the mobile suit era is. Is Michael. Is YouTuber Michael Reeves. If he was allowed to have mobile suit technology, I cannot even imagine the they that he. This is the guy that made the surgery robot at home. That was terrifying. And like that it did. Give this guy mobile suits and we're fucked. There you go. That he would just barely beat out Jake Paul even. But Jake Paul would be number two and Jake Paul's mobile suit channel would be really popular and like, can we.
[01:00:32] Speaker D: Have a good future giant war machine?
[01:00:36] Speaker A: Can we have good things happening? I want good things to happen in the future.
[01:00:41] Speaker C: I think you know better. You know, this is. This isn't a Star Trek podcast.
[01:00:48] Speaker A: This isn't a Star Trek podcast. This isn't a Star Trek podcast.
[01:00:52] Speaker C: This isn't a Sonic the Hedgehog podcast.
[01:00:56] Speaker A: You say that, but there are some bad futures in Sonic the Hedgehog.
[01:00:59] Speaker D: Sorry, what was that about pregnant Sonic.
[01:01:02] Speaker A: I'm canceling everyone in here, including myself. Take you all down with me.
[01:01:09] Speaker C: Well, I don't understand why anybody would get canceled just for mentioning pregnant Sonic. But anyway, let's move on.
[01:01:15] Speaker A: Maybe the real pregnant Sonic was inside us.
[01:01:18] Speaker B: Do you think?
[01:01:21] Speaker C: Maybe the real pregnant Sonic is.
[01:01:23] Speaker D: Hey.
[01:01:23] Speaker B: Whoa. Oh, wait. I wanted to give this hot take before, which is Washington State, you have to register your mobile suits, but Oregon you do not. Which might surprise some people, but if you've lived in that region, you'll know.
[01:01:36] Speaker A: No, I understand that, like, Oregon is a region that I know is to the left, but my brain keeps telling me it's a deep Republican region. I know it's not, but it's just.
[01:01:46] Speaker D: I mean, no, it actually.
[01:01:48] Speaker B: Oregon is entirely Republican. Except Portland, basically.
[01:01:52] Speaker D: Yeah, like Portland is left.
[01:01:54] Speaker B: Yeah, like, people don't realize this about Oregon, but like Oregon. I was born there. All right, I'll say whatever the I want.
And so Oregon, outside of Portland, Oregon is like one of the most redneck places in this whole country. Derogatory. Not the. Not the communist Appalachian rednecks. The other kind, I guess you could.
[01:02:16] Speaker A: Say on your time there, you really went on a real Oregon trail.
[01:02:22] Speaker B: Finally made a bad joke that wasn't. I can't say was a Gundam reference. So I hope you're happy.
[01:02:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Because if you were like, oh, here's the Oregon Gundam series.
[01:02:34] Speaker B: Do you think. Do you think high schools would have mobile suit Ed. Oh, like, teach you to get your mobile suit license.
[01:02:41] Speaker A: I hope so.
[01:02:41] Speaker D: Because, I mean, if it's better if they do.
[01:02:43] Speaker B: Right.
[01:02:43] Speaker D: Police departments with Gundams, then inevitably, you know, the just say no officer shows up with his Gundam. So, yeah, which let's.
[01:02:54] Speaker B: Let's shift gears a little bit.
[01:02:56] Speaker D: And all the military recruiters.
[01:02:58] Speaker B: Let's shift gears a little bit here as we come close to the end of the episode. And we'll have a couple of slightly quirkier questions here at the end. Would the 5.
[01:03:09] Speaker A: Please say this?
[01:03:10] Speaker B: Would the 5G truthers be for or against Monofsky particles, given that they block all other radio waves, but the. They are a quote unquote particle?
[01:03:21] Speaker A: Okay, so I just talked to the Pope and he said none of those words were in the Bible for our.
[01:03:26] Speaker B: Listeners who are our voters at home who may not know what the Monofsky particles are. Monovsky drives are like these, like, sort of pseudoscience, slightly magical, super powered energy drives that make mobile suits possible.
You'd need like an incredible source of energy, obviously, that was compact and ran forever.
So you have These Monovsky drives. But their downside is they shed these things called Monovsky particles that block out radio waves. So are the 5G truthers. Are they in favor of the Monovsky particle, such that it blocks out all other. You know, you can't make a cell call if you're near a Gundam, et cetera? Or do they just consider it it's just another evil. Just another evil radio wave being beamed into my head by the government? It.
[01:04:14] Speaker A: I'm leaning towards that one.
[01:04:16] Speaker C: No, conservatives don't truly care about radio waves. If you were to give them a personal robot, they'd get over their fear of radio waves right away.
[01:04:26] Speaker D: Plus, it's the new tin foil.
[01:04:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:04:29] Speaker A: Oh, so they'd be like, wow, cool robot. I can now overthrow the government.
[01:04:33] Speaker D: You know, they've got a generator, you know, right next to their fireplace.
[01:04:36] Speaker C: Yeah. They'd start saying, it's my God given right to have radiation in my brain.
[01:04:42] Speaker D: Because it blocks all those other signals. And those other signals could be bad.
[01:04:46] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[01:04:46] Speaker A: Imagine what RFK would say about all this.
[01:04:49] Speaker C: They're going to say the Minofsky particles.
[01:04:51] Speaker D: Actually block out the chemistry and they probably stop Covid. So.
[01:04:56] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They stopped Covid.
[01:04:58] Speaker B: All right, for our final item here, this one's a little bit juicy, though, so we may have to chew on this for a moment. First up, Bailey, I want to ask, have you been watching Gundam G Q U U U U U U U U U S which I believe is. I believe is pronounced Gundam Cucks.
[01:05:18] Speaker D: It is not.
[01:05:19] Speaker A: What?
[01:05:21] Speaker D: It is absolutely not.
[01:05:23] Speaker A: What is this Kingdom Hearts nonsense? Dream drop distance 382 over 5 days.
[01:05:30] Speaker D: First of all, there are 6 use in G.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah. So I've been watching Gundam Cucks. Have you been. Have you been watching.
[01:05:39] Speaker D: I've been watching G clucks. I don't know if that's the same show you're watching.
[01:05:44] Speaker B: I believe so, because that kind of.
[01:05:45] Speaker D: Sounds like a porn parody, which you're welcome to do.
[01:05:49] Speaker A: Yeah, Kennedy, I was gonna say, what's your search history look like?
[01:05:52] Speaker B: I just listen. How g query about this.
I want to give my pet fan theory, which is. I feel like. I feel like when they told Hideki Anno you could be involved in a Gundam, he just immediately said yes without question, no hesitation. And then later on he realized, oh, my God, they have all these fucking story bibles and mechanical engineering design guides and all these things. All these standard negotiating operating agreements, you know, signed by NATO. And like, I can't just write whatever kooky story I might. I can't just write whatever, you know. And then he was like, what can I do? And they were like, well, you can make the title whatever you want.
[01:06:38] Speaker A: Yeah, this isn't a bit. It's kooks. I would pronounce it.
[01:06:43] Speaker D: What. You're not the biggest fan of G. Fred. G Fred is a hero.
[01:06:48] Speaker A: You're a hero.
[01:06:49] Speaker D: Thank you.
[01:06:50] Speaker B: I just, that's my, that's my pet theory. I just think, I just think, you know, he's, you know, Anno is not used to working in these kinds of constraints like you have to work in to be to write a Gundam series because again, it's just so much like story Bible type shit that you have to be beholden to internally. They have like dozens of writers whose job is only to maintain these internal documents that we never see. That's crazy, right?
[01:07:21] Speaker C: Like, yeah, but I bet that there's. I mean, it probably won't be as detailed for every franchise, but I would also bet that there's that level of there's some guy with a book for almost every major franchise if they're making it, you know, there's some person whose job is to carry a big book.
[01:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh yeah, they're definitely. And I mean there's. I mean, you can go even further when you look at something like Lord of the Rings, which has been around for so long and is, you know, was written by a prestigious white guy. And so it's considered a quote unquote, academic property. You can get a degree in that. You can be a fucking Lord of the Rings expert. Like that can be your, your field of expertise. And then when Peter Jackson makes his Next Hobbit Part 9, you know, or whatever, or Amazon Studios presents one truer ring, they fucking call your ass and fucking send you $20,000 to talk on the phone, you know, sit six Zoom calls for an hour or whatever.
[01:08:26] Speaker D: Oh, is that all like.
[01:08:28] Speaker C: Well, part of the price that, that you're getting paid is at the end of it, you have to say that the show is good.
[01:08:34] Speaker A: Well, this sure. Show sure is good and accurate to what I told them to do. And I don't want to kill anybody. Give me money.
[01:08:45] Speaker B: No, usually in that situation you come out and you make a statement like, I really thought it was a unique and exciting and original take on the story.
And I think it's just really good that different versions of this story get to be told or something like that, you know.
[01:09:07] Speaker A: Kennedy, I know this is just a bit. But I hate your guts right now. I know that is not the real Kennedy. This is Kennedy pretending. Is it, though, fictional character?
Yes, maybe. Oh, God, Kennedy, no. Did you sell out?
[01:09:22] Speaker B: I'd love to, actually. Somebody call me and throw me some money. Yes.
[01:09:25] Speaker D: You want to pay off my student loans? I'm open.
[01:09:27] Speaker B: Would somebody like to pay me to sell out because I am taking phone calls.
[01:09:33] Speaker D: What was the question for our final.
[01:09:35] Speaker B: Item here in Gundam? Cucks. I'm pretty sure I'm pronouncing this correctly.
[01:09:43] Speaker A: You are the least favorite Kennedy in this podcast.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: They engage in something called clan battle Battle, which is two mobile suits facing off against each other. And it's actually pretty interesting because it gets surprisingly into, like, the explanations of why they do two person combat and the military.
The military strategy behind it.
[01:10:07] Speaker A: That's why they call it cucks, because everybody's watching it. Got it.
That's why they call it cucks. Okay, I understand now. I'm on your side, Kennedy.
[01:10:16] Speaker D: You know what? I'm not sure I understand this joke, so if you could explain. Explain that to me just a little bit more.
[01:10:22] Speaker B: The joke is that when Brandon and I started our first podcast, we put a bet out there when we had, like, no listeners, no following, nobody knew who we were online. We put a bet out there and said we would watch the movie Cuck if somebody sent $100 to our podcast. This is a. This is a sort of right wing sympathy or maybe an anti right wing. It didn't seem to know what was it? Its message was movie about a. About an incel who ends up going on a killing spree after being.
It's a. I don't even want to get. It's just.
So now I just have to occasionally torture our longtime dedicated OG listeners.
[01:11:09] Speaker C: Yeah. And Kennedy. I know. Have you ever seen the movie Brick by Rian Johnson?
[01:11:14] Speaker B: You know for a fact it's one of my favorite movies. And I know you're setting up some kind of bit.
[01:11:19] Speaker C: Yeah, Cuck is absolutely nothing like that.
[01:11:22] Speaker A: It looks like as the person who wasn't involved with these two originally, I'm the one getting cucked here as they explore their memory.
[01:11:30] Speaker D: I wasn't aware that anyone could watch you on a podcast.
[01:11:33] Speaker C: Yes, that's what our editor.
[01:11:35] Speaker D: Although I suppose if you watch us on a podcast.
[01:11:38] Speaker C: Yeah, you can get Cucked and Brit at the same time.
[01:11:41] Speaker A: You can watch people with your ears if you really are an expert on earology.
[01:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah, watch with your ears, not with your mouth. That's what.
[01:11:50] Speaker D: Oh, I see.
Anyway, G Quacks was cool.
[01:11:54] Speaker B: G Clucks is really good.
[01:11:56] Speaker D: I wouldn't recommend it to new viewers though. The people who are new to Gundam.
[01:12:00] Speaker B: It's actually a really. It's probably one of the worst starting places.
If you've never seen any other Gundam series.
[01:12:07] Speaker A: Gorgeous Gundam to start with. What would be the best gun?
[01:12:11] Speaker B: The best item to start with would be which from Mercury, which I'm sure Bailey would probably also agree with.
It's standalone. It takes place in its own parallel universe. You don't need to understand anything about it going into it.
[01:12:21] Speaker A: That one has lesbians, right?
[01:12:23] Speaker D: Correct.
[01:12:24] Speaker B: It has space lesbians. It has. But don't. That's not like the only reason to watch it by any means.
Don't take it on just that value. It's actually just an incredible series in so many ways. But the queerness is absolutely adorable. And there was one scene in particular that made me fucking bawl my eyes out.
[01:12:45] Speaker D: Also, don't skip Episode zero for that. Episode zero is actually really, really important. And do not skip it. However, it will ruin every birthday you have for the rest of your life.
[01:12:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Also Episode zero is one of the. Usually if a thing makes me cry, it'll make me cry once. But I cried the first two or three times I watched Episode zero.
Yeah.
[01:13:09] Speaker A: Does it have cool robots?
[01:13:11] Speaker D: It does, yeah. It even has an exceptionally gifted pilot.
[01:13:17] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:13:18] Speaker B: So clan battle.
It's two mobile suits, new pilots facing off against each other. For our final question, which I was trying to ask close to 10 minutes ago, but this has been great.
Final question. And it's mostly my fault we got derailed, I should say.
[01:13:35] Speaker A: Shit.
No, you can. You can blame it on me.
[01:13:38] Speaker B: I want us to pick. We've got to pick two Democrat politicians currently sitting in power at the federal level or at the. Or at the. Or at a high. Or at like governor type state level power.
[01:13:51] Speaker A: Tim Waltz.
[01:13:52] Speaker B: Two top Democratic politicians and two top Republican politicians face off in a clan battle. Who in the current political sphere do you. You think could handle themselves in a mobile suit? I think Tim Walls is a great starter pick. I think he. But I don't think he's strong enough. I don't. I think. I think he's. I think I understand why you were quick to jump for him, but I think he's more of a B tier pick than like an A or an S tier pick.
[01:14:19] Speaker D: I would pick if we're. Are we doing two pilots or one.
[01:14:23] Speaker B: We need two pilots for each side then. Yeah.
[01:14:25] Speaker D: Ilhan and Rashida Tulip.
[01:14:28] Speaker B: Good choices. Good choices.
[01:14:30] Speaker D: Strong versus whatever zombie is left on the Republican side?
[01:14:34] Speaker B: Well, no, we got to pick. We got to pick some. We got to decide who on the Republican side, who do we think is not so much of a shambling corpse that they could actually manage?
[01:14:44] Speaker A: I do have an actual option here. He'll need a bit more explanation on the House. Thomas Massie.
He's kind of the Rand Paul of the House, and he does do all sorts of technology stuff. He made his own little pin that shows the deficit to make a point, like he could handle a mobile government suit.
[01:15:08] Speaker D: Does it update in real time?
[01:15:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it updates in real time.
[01:15:11] Speaker D: So who designed it for him?
[01:15:13] Speaker A: He did.
[01:15:15] Speaker C: I'm actually going to pick a more centrist Democratic ticket for the Gundam. I'll be taking Cory Booker from New Jersey and Brian Schatz from Hawaii. And I just believe in a saw like situation that these two senators will fight to preserve each other's lives.
[01:15:35] Speaker B: Interesting. And, well, I, you know, I will give Cory Booker this. We did just watch him make that long speech. He could probably physically handle the rigors of the gun. Yeah, he's in.
[01:15:45] Speaker C: That's what I'm thinking.
[01:15:48] Speaker B: You know, regardless of whether or not you care for his personal politics, you cannot deny that he is a health nut.
Right.
[01:15:56] Speaker C: Jax and Booker are both two moderately healthy libs that like each other.
And I'm thinking that maybe they'll have a JD And Turk from Scrubs Effect locked into that machine, that they'll be able to work it out together.
[01:16:12] Speaker B: These are. These are some. These are some hot takes. What about on the Republican side, who's. Who's not too much of a skeleton that they could actually get behind mobile suit seat and maybe last a few minutes.
[01:16:26] Speaker D: Newsom, even though he doesn't realize he's a Republican.
[01:16:28] Speaker B: You know what? I. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take that. I normally, I wouldn't take a. A cop out like that, but in Newsom's case, I'm gonna. Because, wow. No one has ever fucking. He is setting a new standard. I'll just say that he is setting a new standard.
[01:16:46] Speaker D: Isn't he doing the same thing? Reagan start out be a cute little Democrat.
[01:16:50] Speaker A: Liberalism, neoliberalism.
[01:16:52] Speaker B: Yeah, but he's just like. He's speed running it, you know? Like Reagan still had the class to pretend like there were steps to his journey, even if they were short at times.
He still pretended like that. Whereas Gavin Newsom was like, I'm everybody's progressive, sunshine, California, feel good, beach pal.
And then just ran as fast as he could into Can I legally kill migrant workers myself with a handgun.
[01:17:28] Speaker C: I think the Republicans will choose a stronger champion for themselves than Newsom and that they will demand that their own top dogs are on the front line.
They're gonna tell J.D. vance to get in that Gundam.
They're gonna tell Trump to get the Gundam. Gundam. Trump's not getting in anything. He's not climbing anything.
[01:17:51] Speaker B: Oh, but you know, not Rubio. If he's in okay shape. He's really bloodthirsty.
[01:17:57] Speaker C: Rubio is a great choice. I was gonna say Trump Jr. Get in there.
[01:18:02] Speaker B: Oh, Baron.
[01:18:03] Speaker C: Let's get. Let's get Vance And Donald Trump Jr. Get on in there.
[01:18:09] Speaker D: Cruz and RFK, I would try.
[01:18:15] Speaker B: Gets in the gun.
[01:18:16] Speaker C: I don't think RFK would even be willing to get in there with Cruise.
I think RFK would panic as soon.
[01:18:23] Speaker B: As they're not gonna.
[01:18:25] Speaker C: RFK would run for the door as soon as you said you got to get in there with Cruise.
[01:18:29] Speaker B: I actually think part of getting this.
[01:18:30] Speaker C: Work is that I think they both would.
[01:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Work with each other.
[01:18:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Cruz wouldn't want to get in a confined space with rfk. RFK starts coughing.
[01:18:40] Speaker D: You know Marjorie Taylor Greene.
[01:18:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. How about Marjorie Taylor Greene and Marco Rubio? The anti Semitism team?
[01:18:52] Speaker A: We're going to die.
We are going to die.
[01:18:56] Speaker C: I. I don't think there's anyone willing to get in with Elon.
[01:19:01] Speaker D: No.
[01:19:02] Speaker C: Like Ian Miles Chong or someone like that. They don't qualify.
They've got to have. They got to be a winner of something.
[01:19:10] Speaker A: Elon Musk would try to pay people off.
[01:19:12] Speaker C: Imagine being the richest person in the world and wanting a Gundam and not being able to get in one because no one else will get in it with.
[01:19:21] Speaker D: Just build a submarine. It worked for the last guy.
[01:19:23] Speaker B: It's two different mobile suits in Clan Battle. But I don't think that Matt. Like, I don't think even being having that separation of another, you still have to be close to the person that you pilot. Yeah.
Maybe hang out with them a little bit to have a good chance. Like they. A lot of the teams that they establish in Clan Battle, there's some kind of chemistry between the two pilots. And I don't think Elon Musk can have chemistry with another human.
[01:19:52] Speaker D: He barely has chemistry with machines.
[01:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't think he can. I'm not sure he can have chemistry with anything really.
[01:19:59] Speaker D: So, you know that Gundam is not doing him any favors.
[01:20:02] Speaker B: No. In fact, Elon would have to. He wouldn't be able to pilot a Gundam. He would have to take a lesser mobile suit.
[01:20:08] Speaker A: Elon would pretend he knows everything about Gundams. But if you actually know anything Gundams, you realize it's nonsense. Everyone come out of his mouth.
[01:20:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Elon Musk would be like, well, actually the RX78 could beat the Unicorn Gundam in a fight because even though the Unicorn Gundam seems more advanced the technology back then at the time.
And you'd be like, what the are you talking about?
[01:20:34] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I don't think Musk makes it through an entire Gundam series. He's a first act Gundam villain.
[01:20:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Historically villains like Elon Musk in the show definitely don't live more than one or two acts usually.
[01:20:47] Speaker A: Ooh, say that again. Say that again.
[01:20:50] Speaker D: He'd get taken out by Charlie Abol and you know it.
[01:20:53] Speaker A: I mean, oh no.
[01:20:55] Speaker B: Like he would be one of those people that like he's inside Zeon trying to make it more fascist, but then he gets assassinated by somebody else on the inside.
[01:21:03] Speaker D: Oh, Casillian for sure. Casillia hands down.
[01:21:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Casillia is just gonna take his ass out for sure. Or if not Casilia, then Giren is also. He's got a plot that's also in motion and he just started his a little later than Casilia. And so Casilia happens to.
To work out first and he's just like, oh, okay, I guess. But Giren was also like, yeah, I'm gonna kill Elon.
[01:21:29] Speaker A: Looks like we're gonna have to kill this guy. Stephen.
[01:21:32] Speaker D: It's unlikely that they'd work together, so you know.
[01:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah, no, they wouldn't get along at all.
The. You can't. That's two very power hungry people with too many conflicting ideals and motives. It's not gonna work.
Did we. So did we decide on our final best team for the Conservatives? I think we decided on Cory Booker and Brandon. I'm sorry, but that other, that other fellow from Hawaii is a little obstinacy for the conservatives.
[01:22:00] Speaker C: Yeah, he's the lib F. Well, we, we could do Ilhan and Aoc or.
[01:22:05] Speaker B: Are we going Ilhan.
Are we going Ilhan and Rashida or are we.
[01:22:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:22:14] Speaker B: Here.
[01:22:15] Speaker C: Yeah. What's the final Republican bracket? Is it. Is it vance and Trump Jr. Or is it some other. Did we settle on what they're going to be?
[01:22:23] Speaker B: Barron Trump, Baron. Yeah, because they always be throwing teenagers into these.
[01:22:29] Speaker D: Well, I mean he's not the Pope, so he'll probably live.
[01:22:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:22:33] Speaker A: My thought on all this is wow, cool robot.
[01:22:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Baron Trump. Right. That's the conservative ticket.
[01:22:41] Speaker C: Boy, oh boy.
[01:22:44] Speaker B: And then what are we doing for the Lib? The Lib ticket? Let's. Let's finalize it.
[01:22:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Is this the Lib ticket or a leftist ticket on the Gundam?
Who's getting through the Gundam primary?
[01:22:55] Speaker B: Democrat ticket. So it's just whatever we want it to be. But they have to be elected Democrats, so they can't be that far to the left.
[01:23:01] Speaker A: Listen here, liberal, my robot wife left me.
[01:23:04] Speaker D: Okay? Why don't you ask Grok about it?
[01:23:07] Speaker C: Yeah, good for her.
[01:23:09] Speaker D: Yeah, please don't ask Grok about it.
[01:23:11] Speaker A: I'm gonna ask Croc. Oh, that is the most anti semitic thing I've heard in my life. Oh, goodness.
So, yeah, what are we doing with the robots tickets?
[01:23:21] Speaker D: Making them big.
[01:23:21] Speaker C: Does this matter? Does it. Can. Can the audience just decide this for themselves? There's not going to be a formal.
[01:23:29] Speaker B: We do a best of both Worlds and have Rashida Tlaib and Cory Booker.
[01:23:33] Speaker A: When you make everybody happy, nobody's happy.
[01:23:35] Speaker C: Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah.
No, it's fine.
[01:23:39] Speaker B: Clan Battle Ticket.
[01:23:40] Speaker A: Big Ten.
[01:23:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:23:41] Speaker A: And Battle Ticket. That's my new band name.
[01:23:44] Speaker C: Clan Battle.
[01:23:45] Speaker B: Does everyone agree with this? Yeah. Big Tent is the. You have to have a team name. Big Tent would be their team name. Just for the record. Weird.
[01:23:52] Speaker A: I hate this. So, sure, sure, yeah.
[01:23:55] Speaker C: That seems like. Right, yeah.
[01:23:57] Speaker B: Name is some obscure racist slogan from the 1830s that they think, oh, you.
[01:24:02] Speaker D: Know, it'd be something about Rhodesia.
[01:24:04] Speaker C: Yeah, of course.
[01:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Something they think we won't recognize, but we all instantly recognize and we're like.
[01:24:09] Speaker C: Hey, yeah, this is dances. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna be Winged Victory or Birth of a Nation or some off the wall blood and soil or whatever.
[01:24:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:24:24] Speaker A: I thought you were my friends and a new guest. Why are you sad?
[01:24:28] Speaker D: I mean, we're talking Anti War Gundam.
[01:24:30] Speaker B: So who wins? The Democrats or the Republicans?
[01:24:34] Speaker D: And the gun, how many rounds?
[01:24:38] Speaker B: I think it's. I think this is full. Clan Battle rules. You die. One round and you die.
[01:24:48] Speaker C: Well, what do we really think about JD Van?
[01:24:52] Speaker D: That he knows how to tight line and.
[01:24:54] Speaker B: I don't know, I thought. I thought it was gonna be Marjorie Taylor Greene and Baron.
[01:24:57] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. What do we think? Well, okay, in that case, then. Then the Democrats are going to win. Marjorie Taylor Greens might be able to talk her way into the Gundam, but I don't know if she's going to be able to pilot her way out of it.
[01:25:12] Speaker D: No, that's.
[01:25:13] Speaker B: What.
[01:25:14] Speaker D: Not that. I said that.
[01:25:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, I think you know, I mean, I didn't want to just. I figured we'd probably. I didn't want to just give it to the Democrats by default, but unfortunately, that's kind of what we always have to do in this country, Right? Give it to the Democrats by default.
[01:25:29] Speaker A: Blue, no matter who. If you live in New York City.
[01:25:32] Speaker B: Yeah, if you live in New York City. I just want to remind everyone here's. We're wrapping up the show. That was our last goofy question of the show here. As we're wrapping up. I want to remind everyone if you live in New York City, it's really important that you vote blue, no matter who. I don't want to hear any about. Doesn't share my values enough.
[01:25:51] Speaker D: I'm gonna.
[01:25:51] Speaker B: All right. We all just have to hold our nose sometimes and stick up for democracy. Okay? So, speaking of speaking. Sticking up for democracy, Bailey, thank you for sticking up.
[01:26:04] Speaker A: I'm voting for you.
[01:26:05] Speaker B: Putting up.
[01:26:06] Speaker D: Don't rank Cuomo.
[01:26:08] Speaker B: Putting up with our bullshit here today.
Bailey, what would you like to promote?
Do you want people to find you somewhere or got something going on you want people to check out?
[01:26:19] Speaker D: Let's see. I am on bluesky@bbwolf with an evox.com.
i'm on Twitch as bbwolf. Do you want to hang out sometime? Do you want to talk about gun?
[01:26:31] Speaker A: I just voted for you on Blue Sky. I just voted for you on Blue Sky.
[01:26:34] Speaker D: Great.
I will do absolutely nothing with your vote because that's what voting blue, no matter who, gets you.
[01:26:42] Speaker A: Yay. I'm worthless.
[01:26:43] Speaker D: Woo. I'll try, though.
[01:26:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank you so much for joining us.
[01:26:49] Speaker D: Thank you for having me. Happy to talk about Gunpla anytime.
[01:26:51] Speaker B: Oh, this is a great topic. And we took it some. We got to take it some interesting places.
[01:26:58] Speaker D: I didn't even make a quattro joke. Not a single one.
[01:27:02] Speaker B: We. We could have, though.
[01:27:03] Speaker D: Could have.
[01:27:04] Speaker B: Could have. Yeah. Listener respect that.
I guess you could use the final moments you have left to sneak one in. If you think. If you think you can, but otherwise.
[01:27:14] Speaker D: But it would be really, really obvious. And there's no way I can say the thing I was gonna do without that. Do it.
[01:27:22] Speaker A: You can do it. I do these bad jokes all the time.
[01:27:25] Speaker D: Do it. No, it's really bad.
[01:27:27] Speaker A: Okay. Oh, yeah. You have standards, don't you?
[01:27:29] Speaker D: Anyway, buy yourself a Gundam.
[01:27:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Buy, buy, buy a Gunpla kit. It's fun.
A lot of them are pretty easy to put together. I sort of spend an afternoon, relax a little, get into the Zen moment. Of just sticking plastic together. Don't think about the fact that plastic is unsustainable. Everything you do in this world is unsustainable. So just move on and just buy one.
[01:27:52] Speaker C: Don't think, don't think about any fats. Just buy things.
[01:27:55] Speaker B: Yeah, and I'm, I'm not endorsed. I'm not endorsed in any way by Bandai Namco, but Bandai Namco, I would gladly take large bags of money at.
[01:28:05] Speaker C: Any time or Gunpla kits.
[01:28:08] Speaker B: Give me a call. You probably have my number. Just call Palantir first.
[01:28:13] Speaker C: Yeah, they, they have your number from the Gunpla orders.
[01:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:28:19] Speaker C: And definitely gave him your number.
[01:28:22] Speaker B: Voters at home, we have your phone numbers. So if you, if you, if you don't like comment and subscribe, I'm gonna call you personally on the phone and say something about it and you'll be very upset.
[01:28:35] Speaker A: No, no, no. It has to be me. They let. You're cool. They want to talk to you.
[01:28:43] Speaker B: We're gonna give the phone lines over to Andrew.
[01:28:46] Speaker A: Vote right now or else I'm gonna.
[01:28:51] Speaker B: Well said.
[01:28:53] Speaker C: Andrew's gonna wake you up at 2 in the morning and call you. Amazing.
[01:28:56] Speaker A: And that's supposed to be an insult.
It is. You're amazing. You're all amazing. Derogatory.
[01:29:02] Speaker D: You bastard.
[01:29:07] Speaker C: To be fair, that's very important. You know, in the world of art, people can be naturally suspicious of something that's too good.
As long as Andrew comes in and makes like a pun like every 15 minutes, it's just a groan worthy and sounds like Katy Perry wrote it, then the fans go wild for that stuff.
[01:29:29] Speaker D: Thanks for listening.