Karl Urban Vs Acting Politicians

Episode 21 July 23, 2025 01:18:11
Karl Urban Vs Acting Politicians
The Most Important Election Of Our Lives
Karl Urban Vs Acting Politicians

Jul 23 2025 | 01:18:11

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Kennedy Cooper

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Corri Corri Corri in the House!!!

Corrigan, Co-host of Jack Of All Graves, joins The Voters with possibly the most Specific requested Topic yet, that leaves us with so many options. God of Love, Emperor of Rome, Doctor in a Gay Space Communist Future, Judge Jury and Executioner, Karl Urban!
Naturally, as most things do, this brought us back to Ronald Reagan, it’s Karl Urban Vs Acting Politicians in The Most Important Election of Our Lives!

 


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[00:00:01] Speaker A: Now, wait a minute. [00:00:01] Speaker B: Now wait a minute. [00:00:02] Speaker A: We've got a big episode here. You know, obviously every week we come here to celebrate our civic rights and our civic duties. But, you know, here's the thing. You've been propagandized. You are not too smart to fall for propaganda just because you listen to this show. You've been propagandized to think of voting as a hard duty, as an obligation, as your civic responsibility. It's kind of how it's marketed to the masses, but it's actually not true. Your ability to vote is a celebration of the things that you love. When you think about all of the people who did so much of American history, who go out to express their views years after the gunshots have died down, years after the marching has worn off, years after change has been made, they're coming in place to celebrate what's already happened and to lay a groundwork for the future. We can do the same thing here. Our responsibilities, quote, unquote, as a podcast. They're not just about keeping us on schedule. They're about celebrating the things that we love the most. Sometimes it's about groups of people, but sometimes it's, you know, in a really extraordinary time. There's one person. There's one person that can be the justice. There's one person that can symbolize. Yeah. There's one person that can be the judge and the jury and the executioner. Kennedy. Tell us about just any amazing person we could celebrate today. [00:01:37] Speaker C: We're talking, of course, about Ronald Reagan, a man capable of playing. [00:01:43] Speaker D: Pew, pew, pew, pew. [00:01:44] Speaker B: Ronald Reagan. [00:01:45] Speaker C: So many roles in his life. [00:01:49] Speaker A: Mr. Gorbachev, bust down these walls. Bust them down right now. [00:01:55] Speaker C: Sorry, that's later in. That's later in the episode. I jumbled the notes up. We're going to be talking about Carl Urban today in the voting booth. We've got an exciting episode. And I just want to say, for the record, if you're a listener of this show, you're like me, all right? I am not immune all propaganda, but I am immune to bad propaganda. That's right. Yeah. And if you're a listener of this show, you're immune to bad propagand, which is why you're tuning into good propaganda right now and getting ready to do you know what? [00:02:28] Speaker A: Vote, motherfuckers. [00:02:30] Speaker D: It's the most important election of our lives. This election, which will be, I do truly believe, the most important election of our lifetime. [00:02:39] Speaker B: This is the most important election of our lifetime. [00:02:43] Speaker C: This is the most important election. Don't you you hear that? [00:02:47] Speaker A: This is the most important election in our lifetime. [00:02:50] Speaker D: I certainly think it's the most important election of my lifet. [00:02:53] Speaker C: This is the most important election of our times. [00:02:57] Speaker A: Politicians say every time, this is the most important election. This one's really that important. [00:03:03] Speaker D: Oh, my goodness. [00:03:05] Speaker C: We are once again back for the most important election of our lives. You know, I had to yell. Even though Brandon did such a nice placid intro, I had to find an excuse to yell. I only haven't yelled once, and that's because I was going to lose my voice that week if I did. And I think, Brandon, you yelled a little for me that week. So, you know, when I yell, it. [00:03:25] Speaker A: Intimidates people and it comes out in the edit. These are just some of the trials of being black in America. [00:03:35] Speaker C: We are so excited today to have a wonderful guest here in the voting booth with us. But before I introduce her, I have to of course remind you who we are. I'm Kennedy Cooper. Y' all know me. We've got Brandon in the booth with us today. Of course, Brandon Buchanan. Good. Everybody, Brandon, who did our lovely intro today, got our in house statistician Andrew Fields, providing a thin air of academic legitimacy to the show. [00:04:00] Speaker B: Tim Urban. More Carl Urban. More like Tim Rural. I messed up my own joke. Whoops. [00:04:07] Speaker A: Legitimacy, but mostly by volume. [00:04:14] Speaker C: And so excited today to have in the voting booth with us a lovely, wonderful, hilarious guest, Corey from Jack of all Graves. Corey, we are so blessed to have you. Thank Cory. [00:04:26] Speaker B: Corey, Cory in the house. Yeah. [00:04:30] Speaker C: Wow. [00:04:31] Speaker D: You know what? What's really funny is that just by virtue of like being on the cusp of the age group that would have watched that era of Disney Channel, no one has ever actually made that reference to me before. [00:04:42] Speaker A: I thought I was expecting you to. [00:04:44] Speaker B: Roll your eyeballs with how often you heard that I'm number one. [00:04:49] Speaker D: I'm, I'm like just slightly too old for that show. So I knew it existed, but no one has ever referenced it to me before. So you actually. No eye rolls here. Congratulations. You've done something new. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Incredible. [00:05:03] Speaker C: Corey, thank you so much. Like I said for joining us. What made you want to talk with us about the works of one Mr. Carl Urban? [00:05:14] Speaker A: Today? [00:05:15] Speaker D: When Garak approached me about this, I was like, oh, gosh. Like, it felt like a big responsibility. Like, what, what is a thing to talk about if you could pick one thing to discuss. And, you know, she gave me like this list of other things that people had talked about and was like, here, look at some of these episodes, which by the way, this is the second podcast I've been on this week where I've gone to look at like, oh, I'll listen to a couple episodes, get an idea of what I'm in for, and no two episodes are alike. It's like, I know less about this podcast after having listened to a few. [00:05:48] Speaker B: This is the world of voting. No two elections are alike. [00:05:52] Speaker D: It's true. [00:05:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I think, I think I know the least about this podcast, having planned every episode. [00:06:00] Speaker A: You know what? [00:06:01] Speaker B: That's what Socrates says. A true podcaster knows that they know nothing about their podcast. [00:06:09] Speaker D: Amen. But I chose Carl because, you know, as I kind of said while justifying this or pitching this, I feel like Karl Urban is kind of like low key, everyone's favorite actor, but they don't know it. Like, they wouldn't go like, if you were like, who's my favorite actor? You'd be like, oh, I don't know, like Cillian Murphy or like something like that. But deep down, it's Karl Urban. You love everything you've seen him in. [00:06:38] Speaker B: I don't do my British accent often, but when it comes to Carl Urban. Oh, wait, Ewie Ewing, I'll do my terrible. [00:06:45] Speaker D: Yeah, let's be real. He doesn't do a British accent either. [00:06:48] Speaker A: So this, this didn't make our. Our show program, but it's actually an interesting discussion and I want to just bring it up right off the bat, Andrew, and this is a great opportunity for you to impress, given your statistic and voting knowledge. What are some voting systems where. Where Carl Urban is more likely to win? Like, as most beloved actor, he has a high approval rate across all voters. [00:07:13] Speaker B: I mean, definitely ring choice. Yeah, like, he's no, like we talking about, he's not very many people's number one, but he's their number two. Like, definitely give us a ranked choice. And he's getting. He's winning every single act the year, Actress of the year, news article of the year. Like screenplay of the year. [00:07:33] Speaker D: Yes. [00:07:34] Speaker C: I was gonna say that's actually so appropriate because I was gonna say I think most people would have to put him in at least the top five. Even if I didn't realize. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah, if we did rank choice, he would get all the awards. [00:07:45] Speaker C: And so that. So that's a ranked choice. That's a ranked choice winner right there. Somebody who's in everybody's top five. You know, like, Carl Urban didn't get that many number ones, but he got the most number twos and three votes of any candidate. And Swept. [00:08:02] Speaker A: We don't have to even do a segment on whether we think Carl Urban would be elected mayor of New York. You know, it's really. Mayor of New York would have to run for Carl Urban. [00:08:13] Speaker B: We have two mayors in New York right now. Because I like the guy we think that's probably going to get elected. But can we have two mayors? Just, you know, Carl Urban. [00:08:22] Speaker D: Yeah. Co mayor Carl Urban. [00:08:24] Speaker C: Actually, I think. Yeah, I think. I think New York should be like how the Roman Empire sometimes had like the dual emperors. I think New York City is way too big to have one mayor. Need to have to have dual mayors of New York City. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm thinking like in one piece. There is that one kingdom where the day was ruled by one leader and the night was ruled by another leader. [00:08:46] Speaker D: Oh, night Urban. [00:08:48] Speaker C: I'm in tonight. Nightmare nightmares. [00:08:57] Speaker A: This is a million dollar entertainment property. Second of all, you've come all the way back around to Megalopolis. Now you're like, actually, a triumvirate in charge of New York is a great idea. This is what megalot. This is exactly what Megalopolis is about. [00:09:14] Speaker C: But actually, if there was anything in that movie that took. [00:09:19] Speaker D: Did you watch that? Was that an episode? [00:09:23] Speaker C: It was the Triumvirate of New. [00:09:26] Speaker B: We wanted something a little bit zany and weird before we did more traditional stuff. [00:09:31] Speaker D: Well. [00:09:32] Speaker A: And nailed it, honestly. It's a good preview. You know, we did not say for wonks. And the first episode was the most popular episode by numbers because as people watched the show, they would say, this is really interesting. Go back and watch the first episode. So we knew as we started this one that we wanted something that when you. If you can get through Megalopolis and John McCain, you can get through any. [00:09:57] Speaker B: Kind of discussion, it's just very convenient. You can't stream Megaopolis, you know, legally anymore. [00:10:06] Speaker D: Really. [00:10:06] Speaker B: They took it down after we did the podcast. Because we did that podcast. It was so powerful. They were like, oh, we're embarrassed. We gotta take this passion project down. [00:10:16] Speaker A: I. I honestly think that it's a genius move for the production of that, of that film. It's, you know, obviously going to be a cult, something. So here. As digital. As digital overwhelms the world. It's a great move for a director to say, actually, my film is too good for ever being seen on anything. See you later. [00:10:39] Speaker D: He's just gonna sell it to Martin Shkreli and that'll be the end of it. [00:10:44] Speaker C: I just really think before he dies, he's got to record a Commentary track, please. You don't have much time left. [00:10:52] Speaker D: Franc or just Affleck do it. Fine with that too. [00:10:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Oh, absolutely. And Kennedy, you know, with us doing just a lot of event planning and stuff like that, you never know. Maybe this is the format that this show will be soon. Maybe we'll just be in a movie theater and there will be like 20 people that watch this show, but nobody else knows. [00:11:16] Speaker C: Yeah, we're gonna take it. We're gonna take it. [00:11:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Digital. [00:11:20] Speaker C: And it's going to be a purely live show in the future before they. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Go into the Disney vault forever. [00:11:29] Speaker C: These digital episodes. While they last. Suckers. Okay. Yeah. Karl Urban, he has an incredible range as an actor. He is playing the Nightmare in the upcoming HBO series. [00:11:49] Speaker D: I kind of love it. I'm obsessed with this idea, really. [00:11:53] Speaker C: I. I think some. I think more cities should have a nightmare. I'm actually like, the more I think about this, the more I'm like, wait. I think above a certain size, you just have to have a nightmare now. [00:12:02] Speaker D: Like, it's a. It is a 24 hour job. You cannot be going to bed on New York City. Right. Like, that's what Gotham has. Batman or whatever. Like, what if instead we just had a guy who like sat in his office, was like, you guys need anything? That's Carl Urban. [00:12:19] Speaker A: I totally hate in podcasts that there's always when there's a fun conversation, there's some guy that says, and I just looked this up, but I'm going to be that guy today. It turns out that there are real nightmares in the something that of course the Dutch would do. And the nightmare, well, it did make. [00:12:39] Speaker D: New York City so. [00:12:42] Speaker A: Right. [00:12:42] Speaker D: Do the Dutch longer nights than us too. [00:12:45] Speaker C: So you really can't just have nobody paying attention to things all night. Right. [00:12:49] Speaker A: They have. [00:12:51] Speaker D: This is embarrassing. [00:12:52] Speaker C: I'm way up at by the. Where the Planet Ends. We're a flat Earth podcast, by the way. [00:13:04] Speaker D: They're nigh the heavens. Don't you know there are a lot. [00:13:08] Speaker A: Of late night services in that area of the world. And it just. Just keeps. Keeps it up, keeps it going. But obviously this nightmare is in charge of the nightlife. And the Dutch have a lot more common sense than the Americans. They wouldn't call someone a czar, but a mayor seems appropriate for the level of authority that a person there would have. So great, great civilizations like the Dutch and this podcast can both develop ideas autonomously. [00:13:41] Speaker C: Americans would never be fucking brave enough to elect a lord of the nightlife, even though it's Such a good idea. [00:13:48] Speaker B: Las Vegas. Make me the nightmare. Send me back to my home of Las Vegas. They need a nightmare. [00:13:54] Speaker C: I think that's even obviously needs a nightmare. It's insane to even propose that. Andrew. [00:14:00] Speaker A: They could then call Urban to Vegas to be nightmare. But you could be the nightmare's partner that secretly does all the work. If you think of like Batman and Alfred, like, you could be the nightmare. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Okay, so here's. Here's the thing. I don't know if I've talked about it in this podcast. Long story short, more than half of what we call Las Vegas isn't Las Vegas. It's an unincorporated city called Paradise. So I can imagine the mayor of the actual Las Vegas having an assistant that interferes with the paradise stuff. Where the real Las Vegas is where their legal authority is. Wow, this would make a great TV show. [00:14:37] Speaker A: Yeah, this sounds exactly like five other things you've canceled. Give us money. [00:14:44] Speaker C: Urban would kill in this show. He would just. [00:14:47] Speaker D: This is the show we've been waiting. [00:14:50] Speaker B: Yes, I would be Carl Urban's assistant. I would be Carl Urban's assistant actually doing stuff in what people think is Las Vegas. But mayor of Las Vegas has no formal control over 100%. [00:15:03] Speaker C: But you know who else would have been good at this? But like in a more real life sense, back to Ronald Reagan, who I mentioned earlier. Ronald Reagan would rape. [00:15:13] Speaker D: Oh no. [00:15:14] Speaker C: At a meddling. As being a meddling nightmare in real life. He would have been. He would have been a real piece of shit if you had him set him onto a position like that. [00:15:27] Speaker D: Honestly, someone should go tag his like tombstone with meddling Nightmare. I think you've pretty much summed it up right there. Don't. [00:15:36] Speaker B: Don't make him sound cooler. [00:15:38] Speaker D: Please don't. [00:15:40] Speaker B: I. I'm just as close to. I'm just as close to canceling you. [00:15:45] Speaker D: Touche. [00:15:46] Speaker A: And why. [00:15:47] Speaker C: Why can I not stop mentioning Ronald Reagan? Because the other thing we're going to be talking about today is politicians who have acted. [00:15:55] Speaker D: That's right. Nice. Get to it. [00:16:01] Speaker C: Ronald Reagan, famously one of the. One of the biggest names in politicians who have acted he president, which is kind of a big deal, I think. I don't know if it's as big of a deal as being a Hollywood actor, but it's pretty cool, I think. And no, but he's not the only one. I think we tend to think of him the most. Right. But there's also Arnold Schwarzenegger. He gets a little bit forgotten. Now. I was actually talking before the show about how I Think like he sort of gets this weird quasi pass even though he was a terrible governor just because he kind of bowed out of politics and apologized. But like if he had been able to become president, he would have been like one of the most atrocious presidents. Like it, it's actually like crazy. [00:16:51] Speaker D: Oh, I lived in California at that time and I remember like one of the. This was. So I must have been like 18ish right around. I can't remember exactly when he was governor of California, but in that period of time it was like when friends would have been starting to vote and things like that. And this just shows you, like, I don't know, I think maybe the youngsters are a little more savvy now than we were. Where I think like at like, you know, millennials were like, oh, I don't know anything about politics, you know, when we were that age, like, who cares, I just want to have fun. And so everyone thought it was. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Listen, I lived in Nevada when this happened and we just were wondering what the did our crazy neighbors just do? [00:17:41] Speaker D: So many people my age I think were just kind of like, haha, wouldn't it be funny? The governator. And then like it happened and like. [00:17:49] Speaker B: We were wondering what the fuck you were doing. [00:17:51] Speaker D: Yeah, I think there was definitely a degree of like people who did it for the lulz and. And then we just ended up with that. So, you know, be careful about your ironic votes, my friends. You never know what's going to happen. [00:18:07] Speaker B: I will never get into office. [00:18:09] Speaker D: Right. Wouldn't that be hilarious? Oh no. [00:18:14] Speaker C: I've got a couple more. These ones you probably are thinking of a bit less. Senator Patrick Joseph Leahy, who retired. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Or. [00:18:26] Speaker C: Died or something a couple years ago. I don't care. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Soon I'm gonna either retire or die. From this podcast. [00:18:37] Speaker A: For a senator from Vermont. I 100 guarantee that he would have found that hilarious if he's still alive. [00:18:45] Speaker D: Or not depending on current state. [00:18:47] Speaker B: There's no possible way for us to know if he's still alive. No way whatsoever. The air dancing up. [00:18:53] Speaker A: No, no possible way for us to. [00:18:56] Speaker C: Know, unfortunately, because once you retire from politics, you know that the news just stops reporting on you. That's it. So this guy, dang long, long serving senator, one of the third longest serving senator in US history, 48 years in the Senate, served over a lot of interesting things in his time. He was the presiding officer at Donald Trump's second impeachment trial. You know, definitely saw some interesting things in his time as a senator. He also saw some interesting Things in his time as a senator that weren't related to politics. When he was in five Batman movies. [00:19:37] Speaker B: They made Batman political and woe. [00:19:41] Speaker D: Hold on five. [00:19:43] Speaker B: That's that he was a huge. [00:19:45] Speaker D: That crosses directors like who are we? Which. [00:19:50] Speaker C: And so he was in, first of all, Batman Forever. [00:19:54] Speaker D: Wow. Okay. [00:19:55] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Back. Back in the. The Tim Burton era of Batman films. So he was. He had a small cameo as himself. [00:20:07] Speaker D: Is Batman Forever still Burton? [00:20:09] Speaker A: There's a different director. [00:20:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Batman Forever. [00:20:12] Speaker D: Okay. [00:20:13] Speaker A: But he wrote it still technically. It's still technically. [00:20:17] Speaker D: Brooke Bruckheimer directed it. [00:20:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:20] Speaker D: Okay. [00:20:20] Speaker C: Well, Shoemaker directed it, but got it. [00:20:26] Speaker D: I like. You know, I rewatched the first two era yearly at least. And I just kind of completely forgot about Batman Forever. Even though it has an incredible soundtrack. [00:20:38] Speaker A: You've got to come back for a full Batman episode. [00:20:42] Speaker D: We've talked on Jack of all Graves quite a bit. My co host, Mark, actually. You want Mark to come talk Batman with you? He's got a Batman tramp stamp that he got when he was old enough to get a tattoo. He's a huge fan, so we've ranked them on multiple occasions and whatnot. He watches the Batman, that most recent one, like monthly. And it's. It's. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:03] Speaker D: A feat. [00:21:04] Speaker B: Batman has the best superpower of all. Lots of money. [00:21:09] Speaker D: Lotta lot of moolah. [00:21:11] Speaker A: We have to move on. I mean, is there any other notes on. He was in. You give the recipes. Don't that you. You know, much like Tulsa Gabbard, if you mentioned Batman, it becomes a Batman episode. [00:21:23] Speaker C: We won't stay on this too long, but I just want to quickly list this off because I think it's interesting. He was in the Animated Series as a vo. The Batman and Robin film as himself. Again, he was the Dark Knight and the Dark Knight Rises. As a Wayne Enterprises board member. [00:21:40] Speaker A: He stands up to the Joker in the Dark Knight. He's the old man that says, we won't let criminals like you push us around. That's Patrick lady. [00:21:48] Speaker D: That's wild. [00:21:50] Speaker A: Yeah. He gets. He gets a quality civilian. He gets a civilian speaking role. That's on the theme of the movie, which is that all the civilians won't give in to madness. A great speaking role for a US Senator that loves Batman. [00:22:04] Speaker B: It's too bad he either retired and died. [00:22:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Rest in peace. Or retirement or. [00:22:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:13] Speaker D: Whatever you're doing. [00:22:16] Speaker C: And then he was Also in Batman vs Superman, dawn of Justice as a fake senator. So I think that's kind of funny. [00:22:22] Speaker A: Because a lot of these Snyder blows him up. [00:22:25] Speaker D: Oh, wow. [00:22:27] Speaker A: I think he died in Batman, but I'm not sure, but I think he dies. [00:22:39] Speaker D: What if that was actually how he wanted to die? And, like, he was just like, let's go. Let's do this. I would like him to literally blow me up, up on the set of this. That's how I want to go out. [00:22:49] Speaker B: You know what? That sounds like the way you'd want to go. [00:22:51] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:22:52] Speaker C: Here's another one that you may have forgotten. Did you remember that Jerry Springer was a mayor? [00:23:02] Speaker D: There's like a whole documentary recently on him. I can't remember what channel or service or whatever it was on, but it talked at length about that. That guy has, like, the weirdest, greatest career that you've ever heard of. He did die. Yes, definitely. Yeah, he did both retire. He also, he had a quote where he said something along the lines of, like, you know, if there is such thing as a hell, like, I'm basically screwed. There's no way I'm going anywhere else. Like, okay, buddy. [00:23:35] Speaker B: Wow. [00:23:35] Speaker C: Judge Jerry. But nobody remembers that show. But what show? Gary Springer. He was, he was an actor and a mayor, so that we're. We're counting him. And last but not least. [00:23:52] Speaker D: Did you. [00:23:53] Speaker C: Know that a little. A little fella, another senator from Vermont, Funny enough, a man named Bernie Sanders has a, A bit of an. [00:24:03] Speaker D: Is that so? [00:24:04] Speaker A: Do anything but get a job. [00:24:08] Speaker C: Yeah. He was in a, a, a, a 1999 Rom com. [00:24:16] Speaker D: Rom com. [00:24:18] Speaker B: So he was a house rep at that point. [00:24:20] Speaker C: Low budget. Yes, a low budget rom com. As a rabbi that marries some people in the movie. [00:24:28] Speaker D: That's the cutest thing I've ever heard. [00:24:30] Speaker B: I saw a clip and I saw a clip, and in this clip, we see Bernie Sanders. He starts the wedding thing, you know, we're now here for. And then he goes on a rant about how the Dodgers are no longer in New York and how baseball's not the way it used to be. And it sounds like. It almost sounds like a parody of Bernie Sanders because it's exactly. It's the same way he rants about the 1%, except it's about all those Dodgers. They went to California. Used to be able to buy a ticket in the last 10 years. [00:25:00] Speaker D: That's amazing. What's it called? [00:25:02] Speaker C: It's called My Ex Girlfriend's Wedding Reception. [00:25:05] Speaker D: Wow, that sounds like a parody movie. I want to see this so bad. I'm adding it to my letterboxd watch list. Right. [00:25:10] Speaker A: First of all. And I'm gonna add it. I'm on Tracked. I plug that. I use Tracked every once in a while. This name is just like Bernie. So visionary because it's really like a modern anime title. It's got that, that two breath long leg. My ex girlfriend's wedding reception. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Oh, it's the letter X. It's. [00:25:30] Speaker D: Oh, man. [00:25:34] Speaker C: Wedding reception. Like, wait. [00:25:37] Speaker B: Oh, my God. You know who funded this? It must have been Elon Musk. [00:25:42] Speaker D: E, C, K, S. He's even on the poster. This is incredible. [00:25:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:50] Speaker C: Also, I just want to say for the record, this film had a budget of $500,000 and did not achieve commercial success. [00:25:55] Speaker D: Oh, startling. With every single rating is like one star, one and a half star. But Bernie in capital letters. So you know, there's that. His name is Rabbi Manny Shevitz. [00:26:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:09] Speaker D: Come on. And it sounds like a winner to me. [00:26:11] Speaker A: The J.K. rowling's going on over there. [00:26:17] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm giving everybody. Everybody's getting a, Everybody's getting a pass to talk about this movie today. The Token View. It's okay. [00:26:26] Speaker A: No, let's move on. [00:26:28] Speaker C: So we're talking about, about politicians and acting. Obviously we got to bring these things together somehow. So I've got a series of, of queries for us. It's time to step into the voting booth and go through some interesting topics here. And I, I think we'll all leave more politically enlightened for it. I'm just kidding. We'll know less about politics after this. That's the way this show. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Remember, Vote Blue. No matter who is what I believe in after the New York City election. [00:27:05] Speaker C: So I want to kick this off with a couple of kind of easy, easy elections here. Could Carl Urban win an election versus Jerry Springer for mayor of Cincinnati? [00:27:21] Speaker D: Oh, man, I don't. I see, here's the thing. I don't know anything about Cincinnati. In my mind, obviously, Carl is, is the winner of the, of mayor of everything. [00:27:32] Speaker B: Ohio. [00:27:34] Speaker D: Ohio, Ohio. I hear Ohio is hell. Is that accurate? [00:27:40] Speaker C: If it even exists? I mean, I, I, I want proof that Ohio is real. [00:27:48] Speaker B: I thought you once went to Ohio. Is that, is that a fake news? [00:27:53] Speaker C: That's what. When I'm talking about the years that I spent in Ohio, I'm talking about my childhood trauma. Okay. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Oh, God. [00:28:00] Speaker D: They don't bring that up. Yeah, I did go. I went to a town in Ohio called Bowling Green, which does not sound like a real place. And all I really remember of it is drinking a lot of Long Islands and remembering nothing more so Green Hill. [00:28:18] Speaker B: Zone, Montana from the Sonic movie. Sounds More real than Bowling Green, Ohio. [00:28:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:27] Speaker D: I mean, I don't have a good sense. What do you guys think? What does Carl win? [00:28:32] Speaker B: Like, Jerry Springer is kind of a boring, typical guy that just went with the show notes. [00:28:38] Speaker D: True. [00:28:38] Speaker B: To create a crazy show. [00:28:40] Speaker C: I mean, if you look at the history of the types of people that get elected in Ohio in general, Ohio loves sleazy, weird guys. [00:28:51] Speaker D: Oh, that's a. I'm trying to think like now. I mean, I guess Butcher could be a little bit of a sleazy, weird guy, but maybe, maybe a little beyond what we're looking for. Or did you see the loft with Carl Urban in it? [00:29:08] Speaker A: It's really interesting. And yeah, I, I vaguely remember the loft. I was gonna, I was gonna say that we kind of agree that Butcher could get elected mayor of Cincinnati. [00:29:19] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:29:20] Speaker A: If Carl Urban just acts like Butcher for can for three months straight, then. [00:29:27] Speaker B: They'Ll just everybody elect me. So we could be Homelander. I need to be mayor of this city. [00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. If he just yells at people and says, you know, this is the only way to be Homelander or something, he gets drunk like the worst. He does. Paradoxically, I think the better he does for Cincinnati. [00:29:47] Speaker D: Well, you know, this also, and I don't want to, you know, sidetrack, but this makes him a very good candidate to take over for whichever. Ford is not dead and is currently a mayor in Canada. Rob Ford, you know that guy who just like is like super red faced and belligerent and that's like his entire political personality and he just keeps getting elected. [00:30:05] Speaker B: Yeah, we gotta take down Ford, all of them. [00:30:10] Speaker D: Like, I think that's where, where he shines is we go to any city where the personality of a politician is just belligerent and we put Carl Urban as Butcher into that city. [00:30:24] Speaker A: We feel like he could be red faced and belligerent for enough time to be like a senator from Pennsylvania. So is the difference between that and Cincinnati so much, you just go in there, chug a couple of beers and say, whoa, man, the working man used to make deal trucks, steel trucks. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Stealing all of your jobs, everybody. We gotta stop Homelander to save your jobs. [00:30:51] Speaker A: All he's got to do is be as much of a train wreck as possible while not being actively racist. He'll have the full backing of the Democratic Party, the big city mayor election. He'll be fine. [00:31:03] Speaker D: There we go. [00:31:04] Speaker C: Actually, in Ohio you can be a little racist. [00:31:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, of course we are. We did say the Democratic Party and. [00:31:10] Speaker B: Then afterwards Butcher has his own talk show where he does crazy stuff. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:17] Speaker C: If it's belligerence versus belligerence y' all want, how about Carl Urban versus Arnold Schwarzenegger for governor of California? [00:31:28] Speaker D: I think. I think California is firmly in the pocket of the governor, to be honest with you. [00:31:33] Speaker A: California electing Arnold Schwarzenegger, Gregor, as governor is a canon event. [00:31:38] Speaker D: Yes. Like, I mean, look at, you know, California's got Gavin Newsom now. We love. We love a villain in. In California. You know, just like, handsome villain. [00:31:51] Speaker B: I will stick with the man in charge. Pritzker. [00:31:54] Speaker D: In California. [00:31:56] Speaker B: No, where I live in Illinois. [00:31:59] Speaker D: Gotcha. [00:32:01] Speaker B: Governor should be Pritzker. [00:32:03] Speaker A: Gavin Newsom is so much like. Like the evil owner of a basketball team or something. [00:32:09] Speaker D: Yes. Yeah. Well, he is. He's every villainous, like, rich guy in every movie. It's like, truly incredible. And I think that's California's vibe. I don't think Carl goes there. I think he's got. He's got hero vibes. Deep down he's played some villains, but I don't think he's captures that Hollywood villainy. [00:32:30] Speaker A: Specific villainy where, you know, California and Kennedy, you know, we've talked about. Because we talked to a lot of blue state Democrats is. It's like a royal family system. It's a very complex. Like, you really want an actor that's less of an action movie protagonist and more of an anime protagonist to become a governor of California. They're gonna have to deal with so much of a. I just a common man like Carl Urban. The state of California just isn't ready. [00:33:01] Speaker C: I've never seen Carl Urban with enough hair gel in. [00:33:06] Speaker D: Yes. I think that's it. Yeah. He's never. You never gel Carl's hair, and therefore he can never be governor of California. [00:33:15] Speaker A: We can re. We can revisit this after Mortal Kombat because perhaps we'll see his and say, oh, God, yeah, I guess he could be governor of California. [00:33:26] Speaker D: Really good call. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Have you ever considered getting a governor based off of how good they will be at governing? Have you ever. [00:33:33] Speaker A: Have you ever considered, like, I'm from Georgia, so. [00:33:38] Speaker B: No, actually, we know we don't do that in Illinois. In New Jersey, Pritzker is kind of an outlier. Okay. Yeah, let's just do it based up the hair. [00:33:46] Speaker D: This is like, literally, I think, like, the. The biggest qualification for New Jersey is like, who has embezzled in the most creative way, and that person becomes governor just by default. [00:33:58] Speaker B: Let's make it a sport. Creative embezzling. [00:34:00] Speaker D: Right. [00:34:01] Speaker C: Carl Urban versus elder statesman Patrick Leahy for Senator of Vermont. You know, would his aggressive yelling style work against a refined Democrat, a man known to hold the floor during contentious debates? [00:34:20] Speaker A: Vermont is like a whole different anime, isn't it? [00:34:24] Speaker D: Yeah, I don't. I don't read any anime. So this is. I sure. [00:34:30] Speaker B: All right, you should. Okay, just an aside. You should read one piece. It is very short. Incredibly short. You'll be through with it quickly. You'll be through it. Just watch it. It's only over a thousand episodes. [00:34:41] Speaker D: I'm on. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Let's continue. Yeah. Vermont was traditionally a Republican state until it turned blue. And as we've mentioned in this podcast, this was turned blue by Little Guy we'll be mentioning again a little later. [00:34:58] Speaker A: So you know what? [00:34:58] Speaker C: Vermont is less like an anime and more like a PBS children's animated show from the late 90s. [00:35:07] Speaker D: Now. I'm with you. [00:35:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Lamb chops, play along. It is. I gotcha. [00:35:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I could dig it. [00:35:17] Speaker A: Senator. I don't. [00:35:19] Speaker C: Yeah, it's just. It's Arthur. [00:35:23] Speaker D: I'm from New England originally, and I. I say Carl struggles. I was trying. I'm thinking through, you know, his whole. [00:35:31] Speaker B: His whole New England are just weird. New England weird. [00:35:35] Speaker D: I don't think. I don't think we got a place for it because most of New England is like hippies who are either like communist or super conservative. Right. Like those. That's the two ends of the. The spectrum here. And then you got like, you're like Connecticut rich people or whatever. [00:35:51] Speaker B: My apologies to any New York Democrats. I don't mean you. You're not weird. It's all the other New. New. [00:35:57] Speaker D: New York isn't in New England. [00:35:59] Speaker B: New England. That's what I meant. All you New England Democrats, you, the voters at home. I don't mean you. I mean all the other New England Democrats are all weird, though. [00:36:10] Speaker A: You New England voters know how weird you are. [00:36:13] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:36:13] Speaker A: No, they demand that every politician acknowledge their individual weirdness, which is why Carl might struggle. [00:36:22] Speaker B: Collins is concerned. Is deeply concerned. [00:36:25] Speaker D: Well, and we don't, like. I think, you know, a kiwi is too foreign for New England. You know, New Englanders really. Yeah. New Englanders don't really go for those foreign types. Really. So I think the accent. [00:36:44] Speaker A: Well, yeah, over there. For granted that he'd be doing an American accent. Of course. We're going to be seeing if he. If he does his real accent there. We're going to be getting some. Some just incredible varieties of white on white racism that are rarely seen on camera these days. [00:37:01] Speaker D: That's the thing about innovation. Yeah. When you got. When you go to New England, you got to realize that, like, the white on white racism is truly, like, next level. Like, the. The jokes that I learned as a kid about white minorities were like, you know, that everyone has a repertoire of Polish jokes and things like that. So, like, whites are, like, not chill with each other. No. [00:37:26] Speaker C: Yeah. You know how we joke about, like. Like how, like the Breakfast Club is about how, like, white is this movie about, like, white minorities learning to get along. Like, they actually need that movie in New England. Like, for the rest of us, it's just like a cozy movie. [00:37:40] Speaker D: 100. [00:37:41] Speaker C: But, like, they need that lesson still today. [00:37:47] Speaker D: 1,000%. [00:37:49] Speaker C: What if he's. What if. What if Carl Urban is specifically running in character as Leonard McCoy? Does that give him any edge in Vermont? [00:38:00] Speaker D: You know, I think it does. I think you might be on to something. Just like, very divorced guy. Absolutely. 100. [00:38:10] Speaker C: Like quirky quasi sciency. No. [00:38:18] Speaker D: Yeah. I think he is. I think he works. I think you found the loophole. [00:38:24] Speaker C: Is this loophole strong enough for him to beat Bernie Sanders? [00:38:29] Speaker D: Well, they both, you know, they both traffic in being like, your every man. Right. Like, both of them. The whole point is, like, that's just like, that's just some guy, you could have a beer with him kind of situation. And he is more quietly angry instead of, like, loudly angry, which, I don't know, might. Might speak to people or at least a lot of liberal white women who think Jewish men yelling is a microaggression. [00:38:57] Speaker A: How are these two going to differentiate themselves from each other? What is the Bernie vs. McCoy debate? Like? What are they clashing about? [00:39:08] Speaker D: Probably just like, father's rights or something. [00:39:10] Speaker A: I think that Bernie would. Would. Would win on some extremely local. [00:39:18] Speaker B: It's related to Ben and Jerry's ice cream. [00:39:21] Speaker A: Yeah. There's something about the labeling on the. [00:39:23] Speaker D: Right. [00:39:24] Speaker A: That there's like, 50 guys that really know that the labeling style on the syrup is really what moves it or. [00:39:31] Speaker D: Like, nudity in Burlington or some br. [00:39:34] Speaker A: And Bernie knows this but doesn't talk to us about it because we don't care. There's something like that. That. That he'll pull out of his hat. [00:39:41] Speaker C: Yeah. Would just never pick up on the maple syrup. The maple syrup subtleties. I. I actually agree there. [00:39:49] Speaker A: Maple syrup walk, correct. Yeah. Critical demographic in Vermont. The fact that we went all the way down to maple syrup walks means that it was a good competition, though. [00:40:01] Speaker B: It doesn't matter who wins the election as long as we have it's true. [00:40:06] Speaker D: When you're really getting into the nitty gritty, you're on highest office. [00:40:11] Speaker C: Could Carl Urban beat Ronald Reagan for president of the United States? [00:40:20] Speaker D: Yes. [00:40:21] Speaker A: Someone's got to. [00:40:24] Speaker D: Next question. [00:40:27] Speaker C: No. [00:40:29] Speaker A: We keep sending celebrities back in time to beat this guy. Someone's got to pull it off. [00:40:34] Speaker D: I was about to say, is it, is it 1980 or is it 2025 here, just for context. [00:40:42] Speaker A: Strongest in the 80s. And that's where we have to go back. [00:40:46] Speaker B: I'm going back in time to beat Ronald. [00:40:49] Speaker D: It's so tricky though, because. Go back in time. I feel like it's tricky though, because it's like one of those things where it's like, did Reagan cause the 80s or did the 80s cause Reagan? Or I guess the 70s, for that matter. [00:41:05] Speaker C: Right? [00:41:05] Speaker D: Because like, obviously he's like a reaction to everything that occurred in the 70s never being like, put it back in the bottle. There's too many rights and like that. So you know, you're basically saying Reagan's. [00:41:18] Speaker A: A canon event too, right? [00:41:20] Speaker D: Exactly. Like, like it's. It's a tough one to think of anyone like, intervening because it's very much the, the combination of so many factors and rise of the Christian right. [00:41:32] Speaker A: There's something about the game of life where being a right wing actor grinds luck or something. [00:41:40] Speaker C: Can just another actor intervene here? [00:41:42] Speaker D: We're not really right. Exactly. But I don't know. I. I think that there's a degree to which the charm of Carl Urban might be able to break down the walls of the charm of Reagan in. In 1980. You know, I think, I think, you know, he's white enough, he's charming enough. [00:42:01] Speaker A: Are we sending Carl back? We're sending Carl back with like, honestly, if we're saying Reagan's gonna be like. And another running thing we do here, Corey, is John Cena in Florida. You know, just some people are just very hard to beat if we're saying that. Does Carl Urban get knowledge from today to go back back. Does he have like this guy? [00:42:22] Speaker C: Turns out they make versions of all, like all of his movies retroactively get sent back too. Okay. So they make the Lord of the Rings. They make the Lord of the rings in the 50s. You know, they make Judge Dread in the late 60s. Okay. [00:42:43] Speaker B: The boys in the 70s. The boys in the 70s, yeah. [00:42:47] Speaker D: He has a huge body part, so. [00:42:49] Speaker A: He'S considered a way better actor than Reagan. Reagan was Carl Urban's did biography. Even if we were to take it back to the technology level of that time is masterpieces yeah. This guy would be known by then as having made nothing but bangers in his entire life. [00:43:08] Speaker D: Right. And he's likable. Like the thing about Ronald Reagan as part of the thing that gets him, there is connections, right? So like, think about the connections that like a cool guy like Carl Urban has as opposed to like a huge villain like Reagan. Like, because if you, if you've listened to behind the Bastards on him and stuff like that, like he was an asshole. Like, he's not. Nobody like likes Ronald Reagan. He's just like a kind of person he needed to be close to. [00:43:36] Speaker A: Infamous Snitch and Cody, like a Ted Cruz type. No one liked him at all. [00:43:40] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. So like you get a Carl Urban who's got like a network of dudes behind him that are like, you know, powerful and Hollywoody and all that kind of stuff. And his filmography. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Yeah. The fact that we're bringing Carl back with, with, with the. And even a sanitized policy document out, like giving him any kind of coaching on how to talk about, you know, give him, give him a little bit of, of modern wonk in a five page document. I think he'd be a formidable opponent for Reagan especially. We've already taken it for Grant. We've already put him past the primaries. So, you know, there's a bunch, I think we have a chance, old people that we've just jumped him over the line of. So now that it's just him and Reagan and it's Nerf or nothing, I think he's got a good shot. But. But we didn't say we did. Realistically, it's no guarantee. [00:44:38] Speaker D: I like it. I like our odds change the battlefield. [00:44:40] Speaker C: Because maybe this will help us to decide how we feel about Urban versus Reagan to some extent. What if Carl Urban was to play Bert Rainey, the district attorney in Storm Warning, one of Ronald Reagan's most prominent and important roles during his career? This is a, this is a highly political starring role. It is a role with gravitas. It is a movie that addresses very sensitive themes very poorly. But nonetheless it is a movie that addresses sensitive themes, you know. [00:45:24] Speaker B: Well, yeah, way to be redundant. [00:45:28] Speaker D: I love that I, I opened up the IMDb for this and IMDb now has that thing where it just automatically starts whatever's at the top of it and it was just like, like immediate kkk. I was like, oh, hello. When you said it addresses some. It sure does. [00:45:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Very poorly. I want to get that out of the way in case anyone decides to watch Storm Warning at all. [00:45:55] Speaker D: Ginger Rogers, Ronald Reagan, and Doris Day in a movie about Klansmen. That's. That's an interesting lineup. [00:46:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:04] Speaker D: Are there even. There's no black people in it. This is the cast list. This is a movie about the kkk and there's no black people in it. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I think that committees all got together and decided to call in sick for that one. [00:46:23] Speaker B: You know what? I'm. [00:46:25] Speaker D: Seriously. [00:46:26] Speaker B: I'm starting to think there's something problematic about this. [00:46:29] Speaker A: How's the hair care in. How's. How are they doing? You see me split ends on screen? [00:46:37] Speaker D: This is. Can I also just describe the poster at the moment, too? That there's. The poster has, like, at the bottom, like, the KKK standing in front of a burning cross. And then above it, like a sort of. I think it's a romantic scene of a man who's about to kiss a woman, although she doesn't look super into it. What a confusing. Like, I would have no idea what I'm getting into with this film. Is it a romantic KKK movie? What is this? Yes. [00:47:13] Speaker C: Urban's got to take on this. This. In this role of incredible. [00:47:20] Speaker D: What is Ronald Reagan's role in this film? Is he. Is he a clansman? Is he a. Where does he stand? [00:47:28] Speaker B: The show where we ask questions about. Is this a romantic cop KKK comedy. [00:47:34] Speaker C: Movie is relatively anti kkk, but it's like, okay, it's like, you know how, like, there was a lot of media that was supposed to be anti Nazi but kind of made the Nazis look cooler than they were? Right. Like, this movie is like that. It's like it's supposed to be kkk, but it kind of makes the KKK seem, like, interesting and powerful and all these things that, like, in real life, it's generally a lot more pathetic than this. [00:48:09] Speaker D: No, right. Like Superman got it. Like, when they did the, like, Superman radio show. And it's just like, these guys are a bunch of doofus who are bullies because they got nothing else going on in their lives. Like, that's really the kkk. They're not cool and powerful and this, like, neat little network of whatever. They're just a bunch of cosplayers, you know? But not like the cool kind. [00:48:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:30] Speaker B: Cloud cosplayers would destroy them with their material. [00:48:33] Speaker C: Just not like a crazy, weird drama that was supposed to be kind of anti kkk, like I say. But it's like, don't talk about what the. Where the KKK comes from or what it actually stands for, really. Like, they don't really address any of that. It's just like the KKK K is just like this nebulous, powerful bad guy in the movie basically. [00:49:00] Speaker D: Right. [00:49:02] Speaker C: It's just been like total. It's just this is a total show of a movie. So we're saying Carl performances were like, the dramatic performances were considered really good and still are to some extent. And this was like a role that, you know. So like, regardless of like the overall like direction of the film and stuff, like this is a film that is like, it's regarded as like cinematically interesting. [00:49:33] Speaker D: As have like, I mean the cinematography. [00:49:36] Speaker C: Looks cool as having good acting and stuff like that. [00:49:39] Speaker A: And so you look cool. [00:49:42] Speaker C: You know, there's a lot. We really got sidetracked talking about how crazy this movie is. [00:49:47] Speaker B: Is. [00:49:47] Speaker C: But, but, but this was a movie that really helped solidify Ronald Reagan as an important actor because this was like a major interesting role in this drama that. [00:49:58] Speaker D: Yeah, it's not like the monkey movie or whatever that we all think of him. [00:50:01] Speaker C: Right. [00:50:02] Speaker D: So this drama, Bobo or whatever, this. [00:50:04] Speaker C: Very serious drama, regardless of how up it was, was considered something, you know. [00:50:12] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if we, if we slide Carl. [00:50:16] Speaker C: In there, Carl Urban take on this incredibly tense role of Bert Rainey, the district attorney in this movie, well then Reagan's cooked kkk. [00:50:28] Speaker B: You're all a bunch of cunts. You're a bunch of losers. Losing cunts. [00:50:32] Speaker C: Like I can't believe we gotta take down the kkk. [00:50:38] Speaker B: Just son off every one of you. Why would anybody want to pee you? You're not cool. Five minute movie. [00:50:45] Speaker D: Bam. Carl solves racism in 1950. Yeah, I'm, I'm in 100%. I, I think we. Yeah, he ends the KKK in a single film. [00:51:01] Speaker C: Furthermore. Yeah, he would ad lib lines that would make this movie better. Like historically. Like we would regard it better historically because of the lines he ad libbed into it. [00:51:14] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:51:15] Speaker A: And remember that patrons get exclusive access to our 6 hour storm warning review in retrospective offer available exclusively on Patreon. Thank you. [00:51:31] Speaker B: Like comment and subscribe. [00:51:33] Speaker D: I'm in. Let's do this. [00:51:36] Speaker B: This is only kind of related, but before we move on, I just want to say one of Ronald Reagan's earliest films in his filmography is the movie they Won't Forget and he was uncredited. They forgot him and they Won't forget. [00:51:52] Speaker D: Beautiful Chef's Kiss. [00:51:54] Speaker C: What about Carl Urban playing the Terminator? He rocked that harder than Arnold Schwarzenegger did. One of Arnold's most iconic roles. Regardless of how you feel about him. As a politician. He did kill it as an actor as the Terminator, in my opinion. [00:52:12] Speaker A: I don't think. Yeah. I'd be like, could we send Carl or Urban back to play? [00:52:16] Speaker D: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you can change the Terminator. [00:52:22] Speaker A: We could send Carl Urban back to play Rocky Balboa, but it wouldn't like. Of course, from a technical. He can do all the stuff, but it wouldn't do the same. Someone else. We've. We've had enough human jobs lost. We don't. [00:52:37] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:52:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:40] Speaker D: So I. [00:52:40] Speaker A: We don't need to repeat the lessons of Terminator. [00:52:47] Speaker D: Yeah. There are some roles where the voice is just as port. As important as everything else about it. And I feel like the Terminator is one of those. His. You know, inexplicable for what he is. Austrian accent in it, which is one of the characteristics of, like, Schwarzenegger movies in general. Just like, is there a reason he has that accent? No, we accept it. That's fine. I think that this one is built off that. Like, if you take that away from that movie, somehow you've lost something important from it. A Kiwi Terminator or even a Carl Urban doing an American accent. Terminator simply is not the Terminator doing an Austrian accent. [00:53:28] Speaker C: That's still. [00:53:30] Speaker D: Which I would like to hear. He is actually. His family is German. That's why his actual name is Carl Heinz Urban. So maybe he could pull it off. [00:53:41] Speaker A: Terminator sounds absolutely thrilling, though. That's. That's gonna do some amazing things for the timeline. [00:53:52] Speaker D: I'll be back. [00:53:55] Speaker A: I'll be back, mate. Vista, baby. [00:54:02] Speaker B: I will not come with you because I want to die. [00:54:06] Speaker A: I think it'd be more. [00:54:06] Speaker C: I asked to ask the LA Visa. [00:54:10] Speaker D: That, like, literally sounded like. What is it? Murray from. From Flight of the Conchords, which I would watch that version of Terminator with Rhys Darby. I've changed my mind. There's another accent that'll work. Be my new favorite movie. [00:54:35] Speaker C: Almost called a T1000. It's pretty impressive. Could Carl Urban a better senator in Batman than Patrick Leahy? Now, keep in mind, Patrick Lake is an incredible Batman fan. Yeah. Right. So, like, he's auditioning. You know, they're in the audition room. [00:54:57] Speaker A: It's so sad to imagine lady working really hard and carbon just walking in, getting it. [00:55:09] Speaker D: Stealing his role. I think Carl Urban is such a good guy that he would see Leahy's fandom and he would abdicate the role for him because, you know, he's a. He's a fanboy. Himself. That's how he ended up being Judge Dredd. Was having, you know, 30 years of 2000 AD fan fanboying behind him. So I think he would respect the game and give that role to Leahy. [00:55:34] Speaker B: And then he would either retire or die. [00:55:37] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:55:38] Speaker A: The greatest one minute short film maybe of all time right now. [00:55:45] Speaker D: So Hollywood should be listening to this. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:48] Speaker C: Pack of Leah, if you're still alive. Let's get the cameras rolling. But the Carl Urban guest host Jerry Springer Show. Better than Jerry Springer. [00:55:59] Speaker D: Yes, absolutely. [00:56:01] Speaker B: Oh, you hunt. You're the field father. [00:56:05] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. You know, sometimes you have a host of a show or game show host, and a lot of the times they're. They say, oh, we want the original guy to come back as soon as possible. I think that Carl Urban would be one of those guest hosts where the people would be like, like, you know. [00:56:22] Speaker D: Yeah, keep them. [00:56:23] Speaker A: Carl Urban hosting the show is at least a breath of fresh air. And maybe we need to start going into they people. The. [00:56:31] Speaker C: The. [00:56:32] Speaker A: The fans of Springer would. For how. Let's say he's doing it for two weeks. Those two weeks are like back when they had guest hosts for the Tonight Show. [00:56:41] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:56:41] Speaker A: And just everybody w. It'd just be a television event. [00:56:44] Speaker D: Like last night Diego Luna was host. Or for the past week, he's hosting Kimmel. And it's like, oh, I would watch Kimmel if this was. This was what it was. I agree with you. [00:56:54] Speaker C: But yeah, they should not have done that at all. That. [00:56:57] Speaker D: That is like, have ruined so delightful career. [00:57:02] Speaker C: Like, they're like, oh, let's just get one of the most deeply likable men in acting right now to be the. To be the. Like, you're supposed to hit somebody like, fucking winner, you know, like, yeah, everyone hates and be like, that's my guest. [00:57:20] Speaker B: You know what? You know what? I just realized I have a career opportunity. I should be guest host on all these random shows. Just sign up for guest hosts. So people are like, oh, thanks God, that guy's gone. [00:57:35] Speaker C: Andrew, you're like, be like, yeah, we're bringing Kevin Spacey back from. From the dead to, To. To. To guest host my show for a couple weeks. And then you come back, everybody, oh, thank God Kevin Spacey's gone. Jimmy Kimmel's back. We love this man. But Dango Luna, you're true. You've lost. [00:57:56] Speaker A: Andrew, I like to think of you as like being a guest host of the show whenever you come in with a bit. [00:58:07] Speaker B: You know what? You know what? [00:58:09] Speaker C: You know what? [00:58:10] Speaker B: As long as I have a purpose in this life. It doesn't care if the purpose is to be dog. At least I have a purpose. [00:58:16] Speaker C: All right, I've got the problematic question. [00:58:19] Speaker D: Okay. [00:58:21] Speaker C: Oh, Carl Urban beat out Bernie Sanders for the role of Jewish rabbi in my ex girlfriend's wedding. [00:58:30] Speaker B: And this is what I asked for. The past. But, folks, this is why I had Kennedy give us all a pass. [00:58:35] Speaker C: Keep in mind, Carl Urban does have to still be called Rabbi Manny and do. And do some of these same bits. [00:58:49] Speaker D: Oh, no. I. I feel like I. I am not authorized to make that decision. [00:58:56] Speaker B: No, Kennedy gave you. This is why I make. This is the past. [00:59:01] Speaker D: I forget. Boy, I could. I could see the Dodgers rant for sure coming out of Carl Urban. [00:59:10] Speaker A: First of all, isn't it so funny to imagine Bernie Sanders is doing, like, a real rant about the rich while he's on. You know, he's on set or something. Then Carl Urban, like, walk starts doing. Starts mirroring the behind Bernie. Carl's like, huh, what's going on? [00:59:46] Speaker D: Oh, no. Sorry for your editing, Garrick. [00:59:52] Speaker A: For the record. [00:59:53] Speaker B: For the record, this movie is about a Jewish Irish Irish wedding. Does that change anything? [01:00:01] Speaker D: And actually, you know what? That does change things, because then it's just even, like, more perfect to have some guy who is neither of those things go up and play the rabbi in this situation. So you know what I'm saying? A baby. I'm gonna give it a baby. [01:00:19] Speaker A: The day develops. The day develops. Bernie's hearing. The producers are leaning towards Carl Urban. He's infuriated. He's actually is this character. They broke this character specifically so he could have an acting role. [01:00:33] Speaker B: Sorry, sorry. [01:00:33] Speaker A: This is another case where the 1% of top actors are taking away from the 99. Bernie starts talking to the union catering. He starts talking to the electricians. He starts talking to the set. He's really fired up. But honestly, the producers are looking more and more. And Carl is, of course, he's just mirroring Bernie still. He's getting more and more into the role. He starts saying, look, I don't. The. The producers are like, instead of talking about. Bernie's talking about losing his job. Can you talk about the Dodgers instead? [01:01:09] Speaker B: Okay, so I gave a little false information. You can cancel me. Not Irish, Italian, Jewish one. [01:01:16] Speaker A: Oh, now we got to do the math all over again. [01:01:19] Speaker B: You could. Can't cancel me. Cancel me for getting up. [01:01:25] Speaker C: Never mind. [01:01:26] Speaker D: Bernie's been amazing. [01:01:28] Speaker C: Bernie's back. [01:01:29] Speaker D: That's a. Yeah, it's a tough call. [01:01:33] Speaker B: You have to explain it. [01:01:35] Speaker C: Don't make me explain it. Don't make me explain it. [01:01:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Just because the whole Protestant Catholic balance of the marriage has now been adjusted. This is much like Kennedy when. Kennedy. There was a day earlier this week off air when I was just like, like all this geopolitical conflict, it's all about Latinas. And I just didn't want to explain further. And then you were like, actually, there is documentation. There's a meme on Twitter, that scholastic source, and it all made sense. This Irish. [01:02:03] Speaker B: I mean, if we're talking about Latinas, then Shadow the Hedgehog. [01:02:07] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [01:02:08] Speaker B: I will not allow. [01:02:09] Speaker A: Of course. And Shadow the Hedgehog is about modern geopolitics. It all adds up. Research in your own right. But. But this Italian versus Irish, the eclipse canon, this Italian versus Irish thing. Yeah, yeah, it's a totally different matter. You got to do your own research. [01:02:26] Speaker B: Kennedy, why don't you ask us a question? [01:02:29] Speaker C: Italians are not gonna accept Carl Urban as readily as the Irish. And I don't want to talk about it any further. Okay, we're gonna flip the script. Once again, Hood. Arnold Schwarzenegger play Leonard Bones McCoy. [01:02:49] Speaker A: Only. Only for the length of a Saturday Night Live. [01:02:53] Speaker D: Good call. No, no, but it is hilarious to think about a great, A great, a. [01:03:04] Speaker A: Great MacGruber, a great Saturday night skit, commercials, but a movie or nothing. [01:03:13] Speaker D: Yeah, nobody's accusing Arnold Schwarzenegger of range, that's for sure. I just don't think that is quite in. In his purview. Also, I'm just imagining him just being too big for the uniforms, for the ship, for everything. Just this clunky ass guy bouncing around. [01:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:34] Speaker B: What if he plays the role of the ship? [01:03:36] Speaker D: What if you play Enterprise? Now we're on to something. Now we're onto something. Arnold Schwarzenegger categorically does not fit in sick bay. That's what I'm saying. Too big. It's just too big. [01:03:56] Speaker B: Three is too big. [01:03:59] Speaker C: Johnny Cage. Could Arnold Schwarzenegger be Johnny Cage? [01:04:03] Speaker D: That's too big to succeed. Yes. Too. [01:04:09] Speaker A: I love Too Big. [01:04:12] Speaker C: You know, people talk a lot about too big to fail, but what about too big and failing? Because that's where we're at right now. [01:04:20] Speaker D: He. [01:04:20] Speaker A: He doesn't have Johnny's, you know, snark based humor. Johnny's humor style is that of a guy who clearly is like, had to learn how to fight. [01:04:30] Speaker D: Right. [01:04:31] Speaker A: Arnold Schwarzenegger's humor style is not exactly like that. [01:04:35] Speaker D: No. [01:04:38] Speaker B: He would do a Bernie Styles. [01:04:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:04:40] Speaker B: Sander Styles rant. Sanders Styles rant. [01:04:47] Speaker D: Again. Would Watch it? Absolutely. [01:04:50] Speaker C: Yes. [01:04:51] Speaker D: Could he? Probably not. Would I watch? Yes. [01:04:56] Speaker C: What about. Could Bernie Sanders play Aomer from one of the noises? [01:05:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Given the right supporting cast. Bernie, a. A cast of. Of of charming actors that knew they were doing a Lord of the Rings adaptation and that their. Their ultimate goal was to help when. [01:05:16] Speaker C: He shows up with the writers. Yeah. [01:05:18] Speaker A: Then. Yes, then Bernie could do that role. [01:05:23] Speaker D: I'm into it. [01:05:24] Speaker C: No, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say I don't. I don't. I don't ask for a lot in terms of, you know, things in exchange for anti Semitism, especially with the current way that these kinds of discussions go, but I think we need an all Jewish Lord of the Rings, all loud Jew. [01:05:40] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm for it. Lord of the Rings for that. [01:05:43] Speaker C: Let's. Let's let somebody make this happen. Okay. [01:05:47] Speaker D: Whenever you get, like, a fantasy stuff, it's like everything Jew coded is always, like, the worst element of everything. Like, oh, no. Oh, no, no, no. That's supposed to be the. That's supposed to be the fantasy Jew, isn't it? So let's just. Just take the whole thing, make them all Jewish also. [01:06:02] Speaker C: In these fantasy worlds, everyone is, like, quiet and, like, reserved and, you know, like, let's. Let's turn that. No, let's have a. Let's have a fantasy world where, like, when they. When the fellowship is, like, debating about whether or not they're gonna go and they're not just like. And you have my ax all solid. They're like. They're like, what do you mean? [01:06:22] Speaker B: We're going to mortgage the change you want to see in the world? [01:06:38] Speaker A: Who would. Who would you cast as Frodo for this? [01:06:41] Speaker D: It's a really good question. [01:06:42] Speaker A: I mean, you've got lots of options. [01:06:44] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:06:44] Speaker A: You've got Rogan, Seth Rogan, Elijah Wood, Jeff Goldblum. [01:06:59] Speaker C: Just. [01:07:00] Speaker D: Everyone is just way too old. It's like wet, hot American summer when they came back and everyone just, like, 45. I love it. Yeah. [01:07:16] Speaker A: That's great. [01:07:17] Speaker C: Adam Sandler as Sauron. [01:07:22] Speaker B: But you're right. [01:07:23] Speaker D: Yes. [01:07:28] Speaker C: I'm way out of line, but I'm completely right, so it's fine. But. Okay, what about. Could Bernie Sanders play Judge Dread? [01:07:38] Speaker D: Well, here Bernie is like, I don't. I don't know. I don't think that he. He could. The whole premise is so against everything that he believes in, which obviously it's satire, but I think he'd have a hard time just even pretending it. He would be, like, going inside rants about like how like, you know, no man should judge, jury and executioner and things. And they, they'd have to cut around it. I think it wouldn't work. [01:08:00] Speaker B: Okay, but counterpoint, counterpoint. I am once again going after the 1%. [01:08:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I, I think that the. Bernie honestly is too much of a lib to even play the character as a fascist executioner. Yeah, yeah. He wouldn't do that. That. And you try to imagine Bernie with you, you know, the, the little nine year old kids and him just doing judge Dread even to scare them, you know, for Halloween. He. I just don't think his whole be in it. You know what I mean? [01:08:35] Speaker D: Don't think he has it in him. [01:08:38] Speaker C: Bernie Sanders is capable of scaring kids of Halloween just in general. Now that you mention it. [01:08:44] Speaker B: I don't care about the 1%. [01:08:46] Speaker C: I just want some agree do it. What about could Ronald Reagan play doom guy? [01:09:00] Speaker D: Could it. Oh, you know, okay. I think there's something there actually. [01:09:06] Speaker A: You know why, you know why he can't? Because you know, we talked about Bernie having a supporting cast of actors that would just carry him through the movie and let his performance the best of it. Only a leftist could get that. Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan would ruin doom. [01:09:24] Speaker D: Yeah, that's a good point. [01:09:26] Speaker A: Like he wouldn't let, he wouldn't let them do it with him as doom guy and then make it good. Like you're imagining like you'd be like. [01:09:34] Speaker C: He'D be like, we gotta make it more religious. [01:09:37] Speaker D: Well, the whole twist of the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:09:40] Speaker A: He, he'd suck. He'd make it suck just from doing it. [01:09:44] Speaker D: That's a very good point. I will say that this is probably Carl Urban's worst American accent is as John Grimm in Doom. [01:09:55] Speaker B: So in this household we call him Doom guy. [01:09:59] Speaker D: Doom guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Both he and Roseman pike in this one are fighting for their cunt to do their American accents in this. So the one thing that Reagan does have going on this is probably that he would sound a little bit more American. But I think you're right when it comes down to it, just his presence would ruin it. [01:10:17] Speaker B: I just want to say that was perfect because you might cut off and it sounded like you said they are fighting for their. On this one. Perfect. I don't care what words you said. [01:10:27] Speaker D: Unnecessary censorship. Insert whatever you want there. Oh, no phrasing. [01:10:37] Speaker C: Could Ronald Reagan play William Butcher? [01:10:41] Speaker D: He could play Homelander. [01:10:46] Speaker A: Actually, you know what, it's funny. This is a great counter argument to Reagan messing up anything that he touched. [01:10:53] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:10:53] Speaker A: Because if Reagan is Butcher and Kripke is still the showrunner, Kripke would make the show know, make fun of or, like, if the show would work in spite of Reagan. Exactly like Reagan would be Butcher. And, you know, all. You know, one of the weaknesses of the adaptation of the Boys is that there's just a little bit of. It's a little bit of a rut. You know, the characters talk over and over about, all right, Butcher, you're really bad this time. You're really the worst. [01:11:22] Speaker B: All right, I can get even worse. I'm gonna get even more silly, you guys. [01:11:26] Speaker A: You characters should just internalize that he's the worst and move on. [01:11:30] Speaker D: On. [01:11:30] Speaker A: But with Reagan in that role, you do you. There would be new depths to all the actors, performances. They would find new ways to dislike Butcher and cry. Much like, you know, Chevy Chase and Community. [01:11:43] Speaker C: Right. [01:11:44] Speaker A: If they can handle Chevy Chase and Community, the guy who did Supernatural can handle the demon Reagan. That is fine. [01:11:52] Speaker D: Good point. So you can. [01:11:55] Speaker A: I don't know if you'd be better than. But I don't know if he'd be better. Yeah, that's the tall order. But, yeah, they. They make it work. [01:12:01] Speaker D: Work. It's a really, really good point with the. With Crypt showrunner. I think you're absolutely right. That does. That does change everything when you have someone who kind of is making fun of the person, whether they realize it or not, and using their character as a way to comment upon them. Yeah, I actually feel pretty good about. [01:12:20] Speaker A: That because the Boys is a satire of the George Bush era anyway. [01:12:25] Speaker D: Right? [01:12:25] Speaker A: Reagan. You know, sometimes the Boys, it's like, you know, we covered a lot of this in America. Are we going back to this with Reagan there as Butcher? It suddenly feels like, oh, yeah, we did. We never left. [01:12:36] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:12:41] Speaker C: That'S gonna be interesting. [01:12:44] Speaker B: Final vote, Final vote. [01:12:47] Speaker C: All right, our final question here in the voting booth. Final vote. Who would make the best actual emperor of Rome? Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ronald Reagan, Bernie Sanders, or Carl Urban? [01:13:03] Speaker D: Are we, like, trying to make sure Rome doesn't fall this time? Or like, as. As it happened, we just insert another one of these guys in here. [01:13:13] Speaker C: Oh, who's. Who's gonna. Who's gonna lead Rome to the most success? [01:13:17] Speaker D: That's a really good question and a difficult one because I don't have. Rome is not my Roman Empire. [01:13:28] Speaker B: The universe just blew up. By the way. Thanks for that paradox. [01:13:35] Speaker A: I actually think Arnold Schwarzenegger matters less in Rome. [01:13:40] Speaker D: Oh, okay. [01:13:41] Speaker A: Like, I just imagine there's lots of Guys like that around and that they're the Germanic tribes they've been fighting. Barb. There's probably. Everybody has a war story about out fighting one guy that was like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Rome. [01:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:56] Speaker A: So I don't know. But, so I think that his, his, his magnetism in America, I guess he's. [01:14:02] Speaker D: He'D have magnetism is what you're saying. He's like, he's every man. [01:14:06] Speaker A: Maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger is not ever a dime a dozen, but he's, he's a few dimes a dozen. You know, the exchange rate is a little bit different. Reagan. I, I don't know. It's real, it's actually really interesting thing. Reagan in the Roman Empire has a little bit of an isekai effect because he knows a lot of he, he's just the product of American society in such a way. It's like you're bringing back a lot of American stuff in that's essential to the package with Reagan when you go back there. So maybe Reagan. I think Reagan does a pretty good job. Bernie. Let's not underestimate Bernie as an emperor. [01:14:50] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:14:51] Speaker A: Like you would think right away. Oh, they're gonna stab this guy over it. Actually, Bernie, he's going back to the Senate. The Rome is really, the Senate is a big player in Rome. And Bernie knows all that stuff. He's been doing it his whole life. [01:15:08] Speaker D: It's a good call. [01:15:09] Speaker A: He knows the history of empire in decline. This has been his number one issue for his whole life. Life. I think that Bernie would actually like, much like a great basketball player. You know, I, I, I guess for each of these people, they're, they're, the thing that makes them really special doesn't fully go away. The, the, the, the thing that makes them an interesting figure in time doesn't get erased. And Carl Urban is kind of the same way. And, and Carl Urban, I think as an actor, people are going to be projecting things onto him more. [01:15:47] Speaker D: Yep. [01:15:48] Speaker A: But I think that that's great for Rome. [01:15:50] Speaker D: True. [01:15:51] Speaker A: He can pretend to be Arnold. He can pretend to be Reagan. He can pretend to be Bernie. And I think any modern person could be smart enough to figure out when to do which one. So I actually think, having now talked it through, I think all four of these guys make, make okay emperor. They all, yeah. Are serviceable, noteworthy emperors of Rome. And I, I'm just gonna take Carl Urban because I think that's the most fun story to tune into. [01:16:22] Speaker D: You sold me. I'm 100% with you now. Like all of your rationale deeply sound, and you absolutely sold me. [01:16:30] Speaker B: I'm gonna pick Bernie just so I can say, listen, guys, this is how Bernie could still win. [01:16:35] Speaker A: This is how Bernie can still win. Time travel. [01:16:38] Speaker C: Yes, that's accurate. All right, well, we've. We've voted our hearts out today. Or thank you so much for joining us. Where do people go if they want to find you? Or the wonderful podcast Jack of All Graves? A. A podcast of. I don't know how to describe it. More curiosities. [01:16:59] Speaker D: And that's a good way of putting it. Yeah, we're. We are Jack of All Graves. We're on all your podcast things, you know, all the places and youtubes and all that stuff. And we are a podcast that talks about very dark things in a joyful way. So anything that could possibly scare you, whether it's, you know, exploding death lakes or supposed hauntings or things that can get into your brain and cause problems and whatnot, we will talk about those things, but in a way that looks at them with curiosity and hopefully doesn't fill you with dread at the end. So you can find us on all the things I'm here lies Corey on blue sky. If you want to hang out with me and chat about, like, you know, my cute dog or things like that. Always there. So, yeah, thanks for having me. Friends. [01:17:47] Speaker B: Delight your delight. [01:17:52] Speaker A: I know this was another hill it. Bye bye. [01:18:03] Speaker D: Your c tingling, is it? Thanks for listening.

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